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darngooddesign

macrumors P6
Jul 4, 2007
17,942
9,483
Atlanta, GA
According to Shiny Shiny the N95 has a plasticky feel and while it has a lot going for it the integration of the different features isn't that good. It also costs a little less than twice as much as the iPhone. All that beign said, I do covet the N95, but not enough to give up my 1.0.2 iPhone. I'm sure as hell not going back to a numeric keypad for anything more than dialing a phone number.
 

GTiPhone

macrumors regular
Jul 22, 2007
249
0
Island Heights, NJ
Whats the point of 3G with such a bad web browser?

Thats like getting crap delivered as fast as possible. No benefits.

That Nokia is definitely better than most other phones, but come on...its the iPhone!!

Have you seen what happens when your listening to music and a call comes in!?!?! Brilliant. Hehehe.

:D;):apple:
 

pjh

macrumors regular
Sep 25, 2007
166
106
Airstrip 1
Whats the point of 3G with such a bad web browser?

Thats like getting crap delivered as fast as possible. No benefits.

That Nokia is definitely better than most other phones, but come on...its the iPhone!!

Have you seen what happens when your listening to music and a call comes in!?!?! Brilliant. Hehehe.

:D;):apple:

The web browser is indeed crap, but the 3G is handy when you want to use your mobile as a modem for your lappy.
 

Telp

macrumors 68040
Feb 6, 2007
3,075
25
if you ask me, iphone wins anyday, even with its fallbacks.
 

plumbingandtech

macrumors 68000
Jun 20, 2007
1,993
1
CNET just did a review of this. (sorry don't have the link, I actually watched a video podcast of some cnet twirp acting 12 and describing the 95)

Wow. BAD.

No 3g in the USA? (tell me he had that wrong??!)

Cost twice as much.

Ugly. Horriblie interface.

Lousy battery life.

I really thought the CNET guy was going to give it a good review (just to be iphone contrarian as they are over there) but even he pointed out bad point after bad point.

Do some research because that phone looks to be all flash (with a leica lense) and not very good substance.
 

DaLurker

macrumors 6502
Mar 30, 2006
364
0
I had an E65 which uses the same Symbian OS and the browser is not very usable at all. Overall the iPhone interface is much nicer.

Furthermore my friend has the n95 and it does feel very plasticky and cheap. The slider also feels very loose (although that could have been his).

If you don't need the GPS, 5 mp camera, video camera or 3g then definitely get the iPhone.
 

seedster2

macrumors 6502a
Sep 16, 2007
686
0
NYC
CNET just did a review of this. (sorry don't have the link, I actually watched a video podcast of some cnet twirp acting 12 and describing the 95)

Wow. BAD.

No 3g in the USA? (tell me he had that wrong??!)

Cost twice as much.

Ugly. Horriblie interface.

Lousy battery life.

I really thought the CNET guy was going to give it a good review (just to be iphone contrarian as they are over there) but even he pointed out bad point after bad point.

Do some research because that phone looks to be all flash (with a leica lense) and not very good substance.

I believe that test was for the foreign version of the N95. That ran on strictly euro GSM bands so could not get on the US 3G networks. The lastest US version works on 3G.

I used an N95 for a little bit and I must say it has everything and then some. The problem i have is I require a full qwerty keyboard. As far as pricing, the iphone was 599 and the n95 699 at the time of review.

As much as I like my iphone, aside from the slick UI, safari browser and built in ipod I think its more flash than substance. Many of the apps come up short (i.e. mail, sms and calendar). I know people keep waiting for Tiger with hopes that this will all be remedied but I think that is a joke. These obvious ommissions are pathetic.

I knew there were applications missing (MMS, ichat) so i waited to buy after the eventual price drop but, I dont see the iphone to be much more superior than a blackberry Curve or an n95. slightly better but not earth shattering.
 

Stella

macrumors G3
Original poster
Apr 21, 2003
8,837
6,334
Canada
The web browser is indeed crap, but the 3G is handy when you want to use your mobile as a modem for your lappy.

The web browser works well enough. Web pages look like what they do on the desktop. Furthermore, I can store my username / passwords on the phone, like Safari ( and unlike iPhone ).

Embedded Flash is great too.

According to Shiny Shiny the N95 has a plasticky feel and while it has a lot going for it the integration of the different features isn't that good. It also costs a little less than twice as much as the iPhone. All that beign said, I do covet the N95, but not enough to give up my 1.0.2 iPhone. I'm sure as hell not going back to a numeric keypad for anything more than dialing a phone number.

Buy it on contract and it'll be cheaper. Even if you do buy it outright you can choose what GSM network to use it on, and install the vast range of 3rd party applications ( and there's plenty of real gems ) freely without hacking your phone!
 

gceo

macrumors 6502a
Jul 13, 2007
655
1
San Diego, CA
You can debate product A over product B all day... but the real winner is the one that sells more.... and here that choice is clear.

The people have spoken.


But fret not Nokia lovers.... the iPhone finally gave them something to chase.
 

elppa

macrumors 68040
Nov 26, 2003
3,233
151
Do some research because that phone looks to be all flash (with a leica lense) and not very good substance.

Carl Zeiss actually. I don't think phones will ever be better than a specialist camera though, whichever lens they put in.

You can debate product A over product B all day... but the real winner is the one that sells more.... and here that choice is clear.

The people have spoken.


But fret not Nokia lovers.... the iPhone finally gave them something to chase.


Ha! Ha!

Pretty much sums it up. Those who say iPhone is not a revolutionary, game-changing product are in severe denial.

Picking up on little things like MMS, GPS, 3G or any other acronym which can be easily added later is ignoring the how the whole package comes together.


For sending multimedia you have email.
For directions you have Google Maps (not as good as true Sat Nav, but close)
For fast data transfer you have WiFi.

All these things can be fixed with future software/hardware updates and the iPhone platform will live on.

The question is, does anyone else have anything yet to rival the iPhone platform.
 

gkarris

macrumors G3
Dec 31, 2004
8,301
1,061
"No escape from Reality...”
The N95 just went down to $699. The N95-8Gig (which is the same memory as the iPhone) has no pricing yet...

If a contract was available, I'd be at $549 - still more than an iPhone...

I thought Ballmer said that the iPhone was the most expensive phone out there???
 

elppa

macrumors 68040
Nov 26, 2003
3,233
151
The N95 just went down to $699. The N95-8Gig (which is the same memory as the iPhone) has no pricing yet...

If a contract was available, I'd be at $549 - still more than an iPhone...

I thought Ballmer said that the iPhone was the most expensive phone out there???

Balmer lied. I know it is hard to believe, but it is true.
 

dqm

macrumors newbie
Mar 20, 2006
12
0
If you don't like the N95 browser you can install the Opera Mini - for free. That's the whole point of an open platform - you are not locked into the vendor's (Apple) choice.

For the cost you have to figure if you like what you're getting. GPS itself is worth upwards of $100 - at least.

Like many have said before, this is an apple to oranges comparison.

I suspect power users will look at phones like the N95-8GB or some of the offerings from SE. For the average 'smartphone' user the iPhone will be the phone of choice.
 

gkarris

macrumors G3
Dec 31, 2004
8,301
1,061
"No escape from Reality...”
The iPhone is definitely the "Smartphone for the rest of us".

During lunch in the area I see a lot of corporate gurus with their BMW's and their fancy smartphones. Blackberry's, Palm Treos, Windows Mobile, all chugging away at their small screens and keyboards.

I had a Windows Mobile and it was okay, just the screen was way too small with all the stuff crammed on there, and it only had a phone keypad (texting nightmare). Not to mention, it wouldn't sync with my computer properly (???).

The iPhone is just so much easier to use and read the alerts on, it'll be hard to go back to something else...

I really don't care if people say things like "does it have enterprise apps and pushmail".. that's what my company laptop is for...
 

jlongale

macrumors newbie
Oct 8, 2007
19
0
the iPhone to me is prob. the best phone i have ever used. I've been with at&t-cingular-at&t for ever now and have used just about every phone that a sim card would work in. I recently had a Palm Treo 650 until the price break for the iPhone and went and bought the 8GB and with the Palm Treo you have to nearly be a rocket scientiest to use it properly and the apps are in the upwards of the thousand, really. dont believe me then check this out then tell me how much you love your iPhone!http://software.palm.com/us/html/display_palm_product.jsp?navCategoryId=noCategory&id=prod6021702
 
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