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Nokia's Browser Based on Safari

macapple said:
Does that mean the n61 imaging phone will also be fully compatible?
Also does any one know about the 8800 compatibility with a mac?
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves here - Nokia's cooperation with Apple to produce a better browser doesn't automatically translate to more Mac compatibility for Series 60 phones, namely because what makes the phones "incompatible" is more a lack of Mac-based S/W from Nokia, not an inherent issue with Series 60 (and many Series 60 phones are already compatible with iSync... at least mostly).

However, no one here hopes more for more Apple/Nokia cooperation and resultant apps than I do.
 
I don't what everyones complaining about Nokia/Mac compatibility for. I've always been able to sync my iCal and Address Book including all my contacts details and photos. I've also been able to transfer audio, images, text and video backwards and forwards between the two. I can even control almost everything about my Mac from my Nokia using Salling Clicker. What more do you want?
 
Stella said:
About 6 months ago, Nokia said they were going to port Mozilla over to Series 60.. so I'm surprised by this announcement - perhaps Moz ended up too much..?
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Probably too big. I'd imagine they'd prefer a smaller chunk of code, as I think webcore is.
 
Matrix9180 said:
AHEM! http://webkit.opendarwin.org/ Next time, make sure you know what you're talking about before you start trolling. Have a nice day.
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Who the hell said I was trolling? I know what I deal with and Safari sucks when it comes to web browsing. Who cares if the webkit is constantly updated, it's not updated in Safari as often. We're often stuck with an old, outdated webkit when it's necessary to update a bit more.

mkrishnan said:
Plus, erm, if sites require engine changes on a monthly basis, they're just not following standards.... No browser I'm aware of, standards-based or otherwise, has feature-oriented upgrades to their engine on that timeframe. FF/Moz barely has bug-fixes or security updates on that timeframe. And when was the last time MSIE was updated for features?

And why should they? That's insanity... it isn't a *good* thing for web standards to be such a moving target, more than 10 years since WWW bowed.
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It's not the sites that require the changes...it's the fact that the websites are supporting standard-compliant features that aren't supported by an outdated Safari webkit. That's a problem that Apple needs to fix, not the websites.

And don't get me started about how Safari beachballs on every website I go to, no matter what computer.
 
whooleytoo said:
Are you sure the 8800 does use Symbian? If so, what does it use?
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I don't know the exact answer - not my area - but I'm sure it's a Symbian version, just perhaps not Series 60.
 
macapple said:
thanks alot

what would you recommend a n61 or 8800
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I'm finally excited again about the phones coming out of Nokia. As far as recommendations: it's entirely personal. Some people value tiny size, others don't, for example. Me? I like the 9500. But it's huge. As far as the ones you mention explicitly: I haven't played with them yet, so I don't have a personal preference.
 
Keep up the good work! This is what I like to hear, Apple is definitely back in business and ready to fight it's way to the top.

I was thinking about the Intel switch and really there are only two companies that should be worried, Microsoft and Dell. With Apple adopting Intel chips we can now see true performance comparisons.
 
whooleytoo said:
Are you sure the 8800 does use Symbian? If so, what does it use?
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If you follow the link in the original message - you'll find the 8800 phone and you can look for yourself ;-)

http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,73092,00.html

I'm not sure, I don' think its Series 40 ( otherwise the spec page would say ), but its not Series 60 anyway.

Nokia are supposed to be bringing Series 60 line down to the mid range line which will be good.

Also good will be the merging of Series 90 into Series 60 so the phones will have touch screen :p. So, high end touch screen phones, mid range the existing Series 60 range.
 
Warbrain said:
And don't get me started about how Safari beachballs on every website I go to, no matter what computer.
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Then there's something up with your 'puter because Safari screams faster than Firefox on my machine, a dual G4.

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Does this mean my Nokia 6630 will get isync support? It' a series 60 phone but uses version 8 of the symbian OS not the version 7 of the older series 60 phones.
 
who cares?

Do that many people really use their phones for surfing the web?

seems wifi is so prevalent now the only reason to use a phone for that is to try and look cool.
 
Preparation for Nokia iTunes phone?

I would not be surprised if this is in preparation of a Nokia iTunes phone. :rolleyes:
 
BOOMBA said:
Do that many people really use their phones for surfing the web?

seems wifi is so prevalent now the only reason to use a phone for that is to try and look cool.
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New phones are starting to use WiFi. In addition, if you're out and want to find some info, you don't always have a laptop handy.
 
Warbrain said:
Who the hell said I was trolling? I know what I deal with and Safari sucks when it comes to web browsing.

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It's not the sites that require the changes...it's the fact that the websites are supporting standard-compliant features that aren't supported by an outdated Safari webkit. That's a problem that Apple needs to fix, not the websites.
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I don't know about your experience, but Safari is one of the most standards-compliant browsers available. When it has problems, it is usually on sites that have been coded specifically for IE/Win.

Given that WebKit has recently been updated to pass Acid2, I am sure that soon Safari will have perhaps the best standards support in any browser, period.

(If you weren't already aware, the lead developer for WebKit, Dave Hyatt, has a very extensive weblog, Surfin' Safari, where he discusses the ins-and-outs of ongoing WebKit development.)
 
Yes, its great for email and web. Though I always go to mobile friendly sites otherwise I'll eat through my GPRS 5MB per month limit in no time.

There are plenty of reasons for use a phone - you are more than likely to have your phone with you than your laptop, for one, and not just to look 'cool' ( which is a very sad reason ).


BOOMBA said:
Do that many people really use their phones for surfing the web?

seems wifi is so prevalent now the only reason to use a phone for that is to try and look cool.
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Warbrain said:
Who the hell said I was trolling?
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No one needed to say anything; it's clear from both your posts and your complete lack of knowledge with regard to what you are commenting on.
 
I don't know if this necessarily means that anything more apple will be in the phone than just how it navigates. Maybe no iTunes, etc. I would like to think that it means we are one step closer to an apple handheld device other than a music player. Steve said at WWDC that they needed to switch to Intel because they have some products they want to make that they don't know how to with the PPC roadmap. This could just be better PowerBooks etc. but maybe there is a lot more to come. He also emphasized performance per watt. Maybe there is more smaller products to come?
 
whooleytoo said:
Are you sure the 8800 does use Symbian? If so, what does it use?
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I believe all Nokia Series 60 phones have a 6 as their second digit, ie: x6xx. Notice that almost all Nokia's that are iSync compatible follow this format.

But anyway, it's irrelevant to me. As with any other cool phones, most of the cool Nokias coming down the pipe aren't available in the U.S.

Has anyone noticed that there are tons of really cool phones on the market today, and that the only way to get them in the U.S. is to buy them from some gray-market, sketchy, steal-your-credit-card sort of place for hundreds and hundreds of dollars... while people in Europe and Asia can get them for free? WTF?
 
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