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It's ShockWave that is crashing. It gave errors on FireFox as well, but the difference is that it didn't take the whole program down.
 
if only apple had teamed up with nokia instead of motorolla, they might have come out with a decent product!
 
Doesn't crash for me either. I'm pretty sure this is a Flash bug - make sure you have the latest version of Flash 8.

Which explains how it crashes every browser on your system if it affects it at all :)
 
Does anyone know if the actual browser has that ugly massive white curser (Windows-style) or if that's just their in the demo?

Everyone still here? Safari still working for everyone? Am I the only one with a working Safari? :D
 
No crashes here. 04 1.5 PB and 04 2.5 dual G5. Both with latest version of Flash installed. Seems crap that it crashes rather than saying "update Flash".
 
Some features do seem rather neat, especially the visual history. Apple add this for Safari 2.5!

Of course, as many have pointed out, the KHTML team deserves as much recognition, if not more, as Apple does for this.
 
Crashed

I reported the link to Apple when prompted after it crashed. I hope the message reaches them rather than just going to /dev/null. Even if it is a Flash issue, Safari should be more graceful in handling the problem.

I hope to see a Phone using OSX technology to compete with phones using Mobile Windows technology. A browser based on Safari technologies is a good step forward along with phones that support H.264 video. My wishlist would be massive support for iSync and iTunes support with cool phones.
 
Stella said:
The Home of Good Beer :p

No offence, but Stella is expensive nasty lager. Certainly not comparable to many good lagers from Europe, in particular Germany and the Czech Republic. In fact many Polish (Okocim, for example), Ukrainian and Russian lagers are pretty good as well.

As an aside, that website crashed Firefox 1.5 RC1 when I clicked on Experience It.
 
BornAgainMac said:
I reported the link to Apple when prompted after it crashed. I hope the message reaches them rather than just going to /dev/null. Even if it is a Flash issue, Safari should be more graceful in handling the problem.

I hope to see a Phone using OSX technology to compete with phones using Mobile Windows technology. A browser based on Safari technologies is a good step forward along with phones that support H.264 video. My wishlist would be massive support for iSync and iTunes support with cool phones.
It is shockwave - with firefox it gives an error message like - shockwave performed an illegal operation.... -just update it
 
ryanw said:
I am very confused by this "Mac Mentality". I am an experienced unix engineer who got into mac osx about 2 or 3 years ago. I see this talk of "repair permissions" EVERYWHERE when people talk about problems. What's the big deal about this? Is this "Mac Folklore"?

actually, it is. It does not fix any problem, but people always bring it up as a last resort after they have deleted preferences files.

On MacOS 7/8/9 the magic bullet was to "rebuild the desktop database". Usually didn't fix a freakin' thing but rumor had it it would mysteriously solve all problems. Other examples are defragging file systems, cleaning out registry keys or reinstalling Windows...
 
eSnow said:
actually, it is. It does not fix any problem, but people always bring it up as a last resort after they have deleted preferences files.


Actually, repairing permissions helped a member today with Mail not loading after 10.4.3. I agree though, it gets recommended far more often than it should. :)
 
Superdrive said:
Now why is iTunes not on this phone too?

No kidding! If there was a USB phone that had iTunes and Safari (and it worked perfectly with iSync), I would buy it in an instant!

But why is Motorola using iTunes... and Nokia Safari? They should both use both! *Prays for a merger*
 
jmufellow said:
The exact same thing happened to me! Very ironic. But it is cool that they are embracing safari.

:edit: try this: go to the link provided, then click the link "experience it" on the left. Safari crashes on me everytime... http://www.series60.com/browser

Yep, I can see it, too. Absolutely fantastic and reproducable. I wonder how the page would look on the phone :).

Anyway, after installing flash 8 - no more crashes.
 
ryanw said:
I am very confused by this "Mac Mentality". I am an experienced unix engineer who got into mac osx about 2 or 3 years ago. I see this talk of "repair permissions" EVERYWHERE when people talk about problems. What's the big deal about this? Is this "Mac Folklore"? How is this 'repair permissions' supposed to magically fix random crashes and how things act?? I personally have never done a repair permissions unless I'm on the phone with a mac tech support guy just to get him off my back to say, "Ok, that didn't fix it, now what?".

I see so many people friggin insane about repairing permissions before ANY and ALL updates, and then after every and all updates.

Somebody PLEASE explain where this got started and why this remains to be the remedy that is even leaps and bounds great than Marry Poppins' spoon full of sugar?


Yesterday I was trying to get the 10.4.3 update from Software Update and it kept refusing to install, and quitting. I repaired permissions and *hey presto* it went on fine.

Repairing permissions does solve a lot of problems. As to why, I really couldn't tell you. Something to do with application prebinding?

Dune
 
ryanw said:
I am very confused by this "Mac Mentality". I am an experienced unix engineer who got into mac osx about 2 or 3 years ago. I see this talk of "repair permissions" EVERYWHERE when people talk about problems. What's the big deal about this? Is this "Mac Folklore"? How is this 'repair permissions' supposed to magically fix random crashes and how things act?? I personally have never done a repair permissions unless I'm on the phone with a mac tech support guy just to get him off my back to say, "Ok, that didn't fix it, now what?".

I see so many people friggin insane about repairing permissions before ANY and ALL updates, and then after every and all updates.

Somebody PLEASE explain where this got started and why this remains to be the remedy that is even leaps and bounds great than Marry Poppins' spoon full of sugar?

If you are a UNIX guy, it shouldn't really be all that foreign to you. If your OS is trying to directly run a program and the binary itself doesn't have execute permissions, its going to refuse to run (permission denied). Now imagine that a program you are running is running another little program which calls another little program, etc. Somewhere in the chain, the binary doesn't have execute permissions, or maybe is referencing a file it doesn't have read permissions to. If this hasn't been accounted for, behavior becomes unpredictable.

For some reason, permissions in OS X have a tendency to get really screwed up. I think it might have to do with (mostly) 3rd party software not cleaning up its own mess, and maybe a bit of leftover garbage from unexpected quits and the like.

Repairing permissions goes through your / and resets your files to the proper permissions. I don't know what it is referencing to do so, but I do know that it can solve strange problems and save you hours of troubleshooting. It takes 5 minutes or so...its worth my time even if it does nothing.
 
It was crashing my Safari, so I decided to try updating my flash. That did the trick, no more crashing.
 
The site crashed my safari also

ut, I am in the market for a new phone which will allow me to check on my servers, and do light maintenance. This looks like it will do the job, especially the new N92, it sure is ugly but has a nice big screen.

I'll have to look and wee which carriers sell the phone.
 
Flash 7 is crashing

The crash is from Flash 7. Go download Flash 8 and everything should work OK.

I've seen the crash in Firefox, Safari and IE when using Flash 7.

CJ
 
munkle said:
Probably still won't' work with iSync though...:rolleyes:

Except Series 60 has been supported by iSync for quite some time. :p My old old Nokia 3650 works just fine, and iSync just installs a neat little package on the phone to be its conduit. The new E series and N series phones should work just fine. Probably a plist hack at first to make it install the sis package, and then full support in another dot release of OS X.
 
sparkleytone said:
If you are a UNIX guy, it shouldn't really be all that foreign to you. For some reason, permissions in OS X have a tendency to get really screwed up. I think it might have to do with (mostly) 3rd party software not cleaning up its own mess, and maybe a bit of leftover garbage from unexpected quits and the like.

I have been doing heavy unix administration and engineering for a good portion of my life of all flavors of unix. I have never seen permissions just randomly 'flipping around'. Sure, you can blame a 3rd party product for mucking around in the file system and changing things. The real question is what does 'repair permissions' do? What subset of files is it querying as the 'authoritive source' of information of how the permissions should be set? And if this thing exists, why can't 3rd party developers muck that up too? Very bizarre...
 
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