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NordVPN Update Adds Native Support for Apple Silicon Macs

apparatchik said:
Don't hold me on this but I think iOS 15 has not been released yet, beta versions are expected to break things, specially apps not updated for it (as is the case until iOS reaches gold).
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Yeah I know iOS 15 is in beta. Official release won’t likely be for another month or so.

It’s just late in the beta cycle for them not to have fixed it yet…

The whole reason for Apple to offer the beta to third party developers is to allow them early access to new features and APIs that they can enhance their apps with… and to fix things that break as a result of the new OS.

It’s super common to see app updates for third party apps contain change logs / notes for future iOS releases months or weeks before the golden master / official release is deployed.

I’m reasonably confident NordVPN on iOS will be updated in time for the official release of iOS 15 - it just seems like they’re cutting it close.
 
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JackNL said:
I'm using Nord and it runs reasonable well on my M1 Mac and iOS. However, I'm always looking for the most secure solution so if anyone can advise something better than Nord, please comment...
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The most secure in my opinion isn't Nord I would look at IVPN they are the only service that try's to persuade you to not buy their service if not needed and have answered the most obscure questions I've had in less than an hour.
 
unclemax said:
It's very cool, but guys, please fix a way to connect from China on Windows. Connecting from countries with Internet restrictions is one of the main reasons why people subscribe for VPN, yet NordVPN has been useless on Windows for months now.
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Simply put, you need to pick another VPN.
The more popular VPN provider is the lower chance it has to work inside China.
 
sudo-sandwich said:
If you mean Apple's VPN, that's not out yet. But macOS already has a built-in VPN client (since early 2000s), and so does iOS since its early days, which I greatly prefer using over any of these third-party ones. There's no reason to install random junk like that when a lot of these providers, NordVPN included, support the standard protocols.
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Apple's built-in "VPN" is just merely a login portal for a few popular protocols. In places where VPN is actually mandatory, those "VPN" you mentioned here will not work, because the technology to block connections through those protocols has been up and running for decades.
 
LukeDizzle said:
LOl...nice. Who does everyone recommend? (asking for a friend)
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ExpressVPN, ProtonVPN, although I never trust a VPN completely. NordVPN is for people who have no idea what they are doing and don't take privacy seriously. They are actually based in Panama and try to seem like they are based in Scandinavia with strong privacy laws which isn't the case.
 
Airforcekid said:
IVPN, Mullvad and Protonvpn are the only 3 I would trust they only use dedicated hardware unlike most that use VPSs.
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Mullvad is a great service. But their reliance on WireGuard and OpenVPN makes it a less than ideal option on iOS/iPadOS as you have no way of utilising a encryption method that is being hardware accelerated. Performance is not getting affected that much as a result of software acceleration working decently enough, but battery life is a completely different matter. You will see greatly reduced battery life when using WireGuard or OpenVPN on iOS/iPadOS.

Using third-party apps for VPN isn't that great either as it's obscuring battery data and network data usage on iOS/iPadOS as iOS will simply count the app as active 24/7 when it comes to battery and data usage as all network traffic is being routed through this app.

It's much better to utilise services that enables you to use the built-in VPN option within iOS/iPadOS, this won't obscure data so you can still rely on battery usage and network usage data being accurate on a per app basis. A utilising IKEv2 IP-Sec with strong encryption like AES-GCM-256 is just as secure as OpenVPN and WireGuard and do to it featuring hardware acceleration on platforms such as iOS, iPadOS and macOS it will result in better performance and lower impact on battery life.


iVPN is great as they provide you the option of utilising IKEv2 directly on iOS, iPadOS and macOS. You don't have to use their app. Same goes with my preferred service Perfect-Privacy.

Services like NordVPN is more a easy solution for less knowledge users more than anything else. The service doesn't offer much of anything outside using the NordVPN app on any platform.


The reason I prefer Perfect-Privacy is because they offer me to use their service however I see fit. I can use the native option within Windows, the native option within macOS, the native option within iOS and iPadOS. I don't have to rely on their app at all. When I want to just hide my browser I simply create a SSH-tunnel towards Perfect-Privacy and use a proxy to hide my browsing traffic using this encrypted SSH-tunnel. It gives me full control of everything. I can customise about anything for it to fit my needs the best way possible.

Another thing I love about Perfect-Privacy is their support for IPv6. This should be a given i 2021, still it's basically only Mullvad and Perfect-Privacy that are the only one supporting IPv6. You receive both a IPv4 and IPv6 address making you capable of connecting to IPv6 only networks and servers.
 
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I’ve had a NordVPN subscription for a bit and hardly ever used it. This got me thinking and I went to see how much time I had left and to cancel any subscription renewal.
I wish I had taken screenshots of the pages they make you go through to cancel the automatic renewal. It was three pages with “this may leave you unprotected” in red letters above and a bunch of ads for their other services and a prominent “Keep My Service” button with “Cancel My Renewal” as just a regular hyperlink. Then they send you an email with a link you have to click to once again confirm you want to stop the automatic renewal.
 
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RamGuy said:
Mullvad is a great service. But their reliance on WireGuard and OpenVPN makes it a less than ideal option on iOS/iPadOS as you have no way of utilising a encryption method that is being hardware accelerated. Performance is not getting affected that much as a result of software acceleration working decently enough, but battery life is a completely different matter. You will see greatly reduced battery life when using WireGuard or OpenVPN on iOS/iPadOS.

Using third-party apps for VPN isn't that great either as it's obscuring battery data and network data usage on iOS/iPadOS as iOS will simply count the app as active 24/7 when it comes to battery and data usage as all network traffic is being routed through this app.

It's much better to utilise services that enables you to use the built-in VPN option within iOS/iPadOS, this won't obscure data so you can still rely on battery usage and network usage data being accurate on a per app basis. A utilising IKEv2 IP-Sec with strong encryption like AES-GCM-256 is just as secure as OpenVPN and WireGuard and do to it featuring hardware acceleration on platforms such as iOS, iPadOS and macOS it will result in better performance and lower impact on battery life.


iVPN is great as they provide you the option of utilising IKEv2 directly on iOS, iPadOS and macOS. You don't have to use their app. Same goes with my preferred service Perfect-Privacy.

Services like NordVPN is more a easy solution for less knowledge users more than anything else. The service doesn't offer much of anything outside using the NordVPN app on any platform.


The reason I prefer Perfect-Privacy is because they offer me to use their service however I see fit. I can use the native option within Windows, the native option within macOS, the native option within iOS and iPadOS. I don't have to rely on their app at all. When I want to just hide my browser I simply create a SSH-tunnel towards Perfect-Privacy and use a proxy to hide my browsing traffic using this encrypted SSH-tunnel. It gives me full control of everything. I can customise about anything for it to fit my needs the best way possible.

Another thing I love about Perfect-Privacy is their support for IPv6. This should be a given i 2021, still it's basically only Mullvad and Perfect-Privacy that are the only one supporting IPv6. You receive both a IPv4 and IPv6 address making you capable of connecting to IPv6 only networks and servers.
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IVPN supports IPV6 as of a month ago I switched from Mullvad to them and its been a much better experience not to say Mullvad was bad but its like comparing a Toyota Camry to a Ferrari.
 
NordVPN is THE worst software I've ever used. It is absolutely unusable on every OS I've used it on.
 
vseera said:
In addition to Express, Mullvad is also great from a privacy standpoint. Speeds used to be an issue on it but when I last checked, speeds were decent and more than what I required.
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There are a few problems with *Mullvad, like the app UI is very Windows oriented which I really dislike, next is the limited servers, I wanted to connect to a server in India to get cheap youtube without ads, guess what, there are no India Mullvad VPN servers.

*I do have a Mullvad sub though, using Wireguard app on my mac and built-in software on one of my routers connected to my TV.
 
Anyone know a better deal from Express VPN?
The best I could find is 12 + 3 months for $6.67 a month?
 
Torguard just replied to my support ticket and stated that their new app coming out will have native AS support. No hard dates but they are "hoping for September". Probably means Oct-Nov, but at least it's coming.
 
JippaLippa said:
I don't mind paying for a decent service, therefore I'm probably gonna try Express VPN too, provided I get a decent discount code.
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I'm sure if you're privacy-focused, you aren't buying these with credit card, but in case you do... ExpressVPN is really annoying and forces you to set up auto-renew. I had to set a reminder 3 years later to cancel or get charged some large amount of money to auto-renew another 3 years. I assume this isn't an issue if you use BTC, which they do accept.
 
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