Nortel Patents Sold to Consortium which Includes Apple

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001


    Nortel announced that they had concluded an auction to sell of its patents and patent applications to a consortium consisting of Apple, EMC, Ericsson, Microsoft, RIM and Sony. The final winning bid was $4.5 billion and includes over 6,000 patents and patent applications covering wireless, 4G, networking optical, voice internet, semiconductors and more.
    We had previously reported that Apple had been interested in buying up the patents off Nortel Networks which had filed for bankruptcy in 2009. The interest in the portfolio was significant due to the broad reach of the patents, especially in the area of wireless networking and LTE technology. Google was also said to be one of the early interested parties by placing an opening bid of $900 million on the patents.

    One research firm has estimated that there are 105 patent families deemed essential to deployment of LTE (4G) technology, with Nokia controlling 57 of those families. Ericsson is said to control 14 families, while Nortel, Qualcomm, and Sony are each reported to control about seven families. The companies that are part of the winning bid will presumably provide access to these patents to those companies.

    Article Link: Nortel Patents Sold to Consortium which Includes Apple
  2. JAT macrumors 603

    Dec 31, 2001
    Mpls, MN
    Oh god, Google and Nokia not listed. Can't wait for the next round of annoying patent wars. :rolleyes:
  3. SandynJosh macrumors 68000

    Oct 26, 2006
    This all makes me wonder how much of the cost to make a phone is the cost of buying all the licenses to make the phone...

    Of course the more you own, the less you need to buy a license for, but still...
  4. cmaier macrumors G3

    Jul 25, 2007
    Nokia has its own ammunition. Google, on the other hand....
  5. shartypants macrumors 6502a


    Jul 27, 2010
    Refreshing to see so many patents being sold to a consortium, hopefully that will cut down on suing, although I'm sure Google is not happy. Microsoft will probably help out Nokia since they are building their phones.
  6. SandynJosh macrumors 68000

    Oct 26, 2006
    Google does not make phones, so it's of no matter to them, however, I'm sure they would love to own the patents just for the income possibilities.

    Nokia owns enough patents to offset not owning these, but isn't Microsoft the new owner of Nokia?
  7. batchtaster macrumors 65816

    Mar 3, 2008
    Here come the counter-suits against Nokia.

    How about everyone just call it even and go back to making better phones?
  8. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 10, 2006
    Nice to see Apple, Microsoft, and RIM working together. With companies like Apple and Microsoft having significant cash reserves it's interesting they decided not to go it alone. Based on the sharing, I guess this means they really are planning on using these patents for defense rather than offense.
  9. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    I don't understand why people are concerned about Nokia; according to the official release it clearly says Nokia owns 57 of the 105 requisite patent families for LTE which means they already have more than half of the patents. Furthermore with the Microsoft-Nokia going on, I'm pretty sure they'll be covered no matter what.

    Google on the other hand seems to have lost a battle here, but I imagine they will have an agreement going on in the background if they haven't already.
  10. Jerome Morrow macrumors 6502a

    Jerome Morrow

    Jun 13, 2011
    United Kingdom
  11. macrumors 6502a

    Nov 10, 2006
    Did Google actually want, as in had to have, these patents? Their bid was the stalking horse bid, just to assign an initial value to the patents and get the auction started. By agreeing to be the stalking horse, Google obviously wouldn't mind having them. But if they had to have them, wouldn't they have held their cards closer to their chest until the actual auction and let someone else be the stalking horse?
  12. min_t macrumors regular

    May 13, 2004
    City by the City by the Bay
    MSFT and NOK probably have a shared patent clause. GOOG, on the other hand was not part of the consortium because they made enemies of 3 members on the list.
  13. DisMyMac macrumors 65816


    Sep 30, 2009
    Were the aliens paid from whom we reverse-engineered much of today's technology? I'd love to see them enforce their patent laws on the earth.
  14. rotarydialz macrumors member

    Dec 11, 2008
    So sad that companies are forced to prevent patent trolls by buying up patents. I doubt a group of friends could invent a successful tech product in their garage in today's cruel legal world.
  15. PapaStu macrumors member


    Jan 8, 2011
    Bay Area, CA
    Not at all. Just one of these constant rumors that MS is going to buy them. Nothing has happened yet.
  16. a.gomez macrumors 6502a


    Oct 10, 2008
    well Google does not make phones - that is what Sony Ericsson is for
  17. JosephKr macrumors newbie

    Jun 6, 2005
    Regarding the Nortel patents

    The interesting thing here is that RIM is part of the consortium. RIM can use all the help it can get right now. I also wonder how much each company footed. I suspect that Apple and Microsoft were the biggest contributors. It should be interesting to see how this affects the stock prices when the markets open in a few hours.
  18. Qramohn macrumors newbie

    Jun 27, 2011
    So Googles doesn't make phones except for the Nexus models? :cool:
  19. JAT macrumors 603

    Dec 31, 2001
    Mpls, MN
    Will buy some.
  20. macrumorsuser10 macrumors 6502

    Nov 18, 2010
    The companies that should be worried are the Android handset OEMs: Motorola, LG, HTC, etc. Google has a history of not covering the asses of its hardware partners.
  21. mKizzo macrumors member

    Oct 17, 2008

    "...concluded an auction to sell OFF its patents.."
  22. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    Google does not even make that. They have someone else make it.

    Nexus One was HTC.
    Nexus S was Samsung.

    The next Nexus the rumor mil is either Motorola or LG.
  23. ChazUK macrumors 603


    Feb 3, 2008
    Essex (UK)
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.2; en-gb; ZTE-BLADE Build/FRF91) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1)

    Like Rodimus said, they have all been made by third parties.

    It seems that Google isn't interested in the hardware game.
  24. orfeas0 macrumors 6502a

    Aug 21, 2010
    Athens, Greece
    I don't understand how does that company declare bankruptcy? Don't companies use their patents -> give them some steady income? Although "bankruptcy" is subjective, they just made 4,5billions, I don't think they're bankrupt any more :)
  25. CFreymarc Suspended

    Sep 4, 2009
    Let the patent suite gang bang being! I am sure that John J. Roese is laughing to the bank seeing his girl married off and violated.

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