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Norwegian Court Convicts First Woman for Rape

emw said:
You're saying it's impossible for a woman to force a man to have sex with her against his will? Is it because women are such weak and vulnerable creatures that they couldn't possibly overcome us much stronger and more physically imposing males? Or is it because a male would never consider having sex a bad thing?
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No, neither. It is certainly possible for a woman to be physically stronger than a man. And it is certainly possible for a man not to want to have sex. However, this still doesn't make it possible for a woman to "rape" a man. I don't want to get too graphic here, but just biologically speaking, women are not equipped to violently coerce a man to have sex. There is no force involved on the man's part in receiving a blowjob or even in sexual intercourse. A man cannot be hurt in either case. Uncomfortable, yes. Humiliated, yes. But it's NOT the same as when a woman is forcefully penetrated against her will. When a woman gets raped, she is the victim of a violent crime. It is quite offensive for you to equate such a horrible crime with a man receiving a blowjob while he is passed out. :mad:
 
jamdr said:
No, neither. It is certainly possible for a woman to be physically stronger than a man. And it is certainly possible for a man not to want to have sex. However, this still doesn't make it possible for a woman to "rape" a man. I don't want to get too graphic here, but just biologically speaking, women are not equipped to violently coerce a man to have sex. There is no force involved on the man's part in receiving a blowjob or even in sexual intercourse. A man cannot be hurt in either case. Uncomfortable, yes. Humiliated, yes. But it's NOT the same as when a woman is forcefully penetrated against her will. When a woman gets raped, she is the victim of a violent crime. It is quite offensive for you to equate such a horrible crime with a man receiving a blowjob while he is passed out. :mad:
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No one is equating the act of a blowjob with penetrative sex. The critical factor here is consent. If it's not consensual, then it's sexual assault and/or rape. To reduce rape to a matter of physical injury is to trivialize its harm.
 
jamdr said:
No, neither. It is certainly possible for a woman to be physically stronger than a man. And it is certainly possible for a man not to want to have sex. However, this still doesn't make it possible for a woman to "rape" a man. I don't want to get too graphic here, but just biologically speaking, women are not equipped to violently coerce a man to have sex. There is no force involved on the man's part in receiving a blowjob or even in sexual intercourse. A man cannot be hurt in either case. Uncomfortable, yes. Humiliated, yes. But it's NOT the same as when a woman is forcefully penetrated against her will. When a woman gets raped, she is the victim of a violent crime. It is quite offensive for you to equate such a horrible crime with a man receiving a blowjob while he is passed out. :mad:
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You just failed sarcasm 101.
 
aloofman said:
No one is equating the act of a blowjob with penetrative sex. The critical factor here is consent. If it's not consensual, then it's sexual assault and/or rape. To reduce rape to a matter of physical injury is to trivialize its harm.
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Fine, but sexual assault is not the same as rape. Sexual assault can come in many forms and includes verbal abuse. I'll agree with calling this sexual assault if the man did, in fact, not consent. It is certainly not rape.
 
jamdr said:
There is no force involved on the man's part in receiving a blowjob or even in sexual intercourse. A man cannot be hurt in either case. Uncomfortable, yes. Humiliated, yes. But it's NOT the same as when a woman is forcefully penetrated against her will. When a woman gets raped, she is the victim of a violent crime. It is quite offensive for you to equate such a horrible crime with a man receiving a blowjob while he is passed out. :mad:
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a man can't get hurt by sex or a bj? women have teeth and can spread stds too, a bj can be very violent if you really want to think about it in that way

but it really is a matter of consent, no consent then its definitely sexual assult, if the woman persists after the guy is telling her to stop thats up there with rape, it may not be as physically damaging, but it can have the same effects
 
jamdr said:
No, neither. It is certainly possible for a woman to be physically stronger than a man. And it is certainly possible for a man not to want to have sex. However, this still doesn't make it possible for a woman to "rape" a man. I don't want to get too graphic here, but just biologically speaking, women are not equipped to violently coerce a man to have sex. There is no force involved on the man's part in receiving a blowjob or even in sexual intercourse. A man cannot be hurt in either case. Uncomfortable, yes. Humiliated, yes. But it's NOT the same as when a woman is forcefully penetrated against her will. When a woman gets raped, she is the victim of a violent crime. It is quite offensive for you to equate such a horrible crime with a man receiving a blowjob while he is passed out. :mad:
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Hmm... so a woman can't date rape a man? A woman can't abuse a position of power in order to force a man to have sex with him? Reminds me of a scene from 40 Days and 40 Nights. Yes, I watched that movie. Oh, and Fatal Attraction (Correct me if I'm wrong on the movie).
 
For those people who don't think its possible for a woman to rape a man then think of women shotputters - you wouldn't stand a chance.

In fact I have a friend who is a triple dan black belt in Karate - she's a pretty little thing - but trust me, I've seen her fight and you wouldn't stand a chance with her either.

Your fantasy maybe that you wake up to some porn star giving you a BJ.
When you wake up to the real world -
 
It could have also been that this guy had a love in his life, and the actions of this woman jeopardized that relationship. STDs are a real concern as well.

I'm not sure what the legal definitions are, but I do agree with people making the distinction between sexual assault and rape.

Still, I'm sure the woman probably hd no shortage of date offers afterwards - I mean, a woman so anxious to give oral sex that she even does it to someone who doesn't want it? I know people that would line up for that! :)
 
I thought this line was funny:
Norway has long traditions of equality -- 40 percent of the cabinet of Prime Minister Kjell Magne Bondevik, for instance, are women.
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Um, equality would be more like 50%.
 
craigdawg said:
I thought this line was funny:
Um, equality would be more like 50%.
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Better than the US, where women make up a paltry 15% of Congress.
 
salmon said:
Still, I'm sure the woman probably hd no shortage of date offers afterwards - I mean, a woman so anxious to give oral sex that she even does it to someone who doesn't want it? I know people that would line up for that! :)
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I'm sure she now leads all Norwegians in party invitations.
 
jamdr said:
This is ridiculous. It is not biologically possible for a woman to rape a man. Rape is a forceful, violent act. Just physically speaking, women cannot force men to have sex with them, and even if they could, it still wouldn't be rape because it wouldn't be an invasive act. Waking up to some woman giving you a bj isn't going to scar you for life; a woman who has been violently attacked and forced to have sex is deeply scarred. This is just pc bull**** gone too far and it's ridiculous that some country's laws support crap like this. The man obviously had some other motives for pressing charges.
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How wrong are you?

I think what you mean is that you understand rape as penetrative vaginal sex by a man forcing himself on a woman. While this is true many people see rape defined as far broader than that and I think most right thinking people would agree this is true.
Some women could force themselves on a man so you're wrong again there.
Waking up to a someone giving you a BJ could of course scar a person so again you're wrong there too.
Equality is not PC bull***.
I'm guessing you're a man who believes that no woman could force themselves on you. What about three or four women holding you down and sodomizing you with strap-ons? I bet you views would suddenly change on what's classed as rape.
 
mpw said:
What about three or four women holding you down and sodomizing you with strap-ons? I bet you views would suddenly change on what's classed as rape.
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Another priceless MR moment.
 
mpw said:
What about three or four women holding you down and sodomizing you with strap-ons? I bet you views would suddenly change on what's classed as rape.
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Depends on whether he wants them to.
 
mpw said:
What about three or four women holding you down and sodomizing you with strap-ons? I bet you views would suddenly change on what's classed as rape.
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Dammit. Now I have to rethink my "post of the day" recommendations...
 
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