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Wow. If the aliens land tomorrow and read this thread, their conclusion will be that, except for one guy, everyone hates the abomination that is the iPod Touch. Wait - make it two guys. I think it's a grand slam, too.

I guess that I must be a fangirl as you have been dubbed a fanboy for actually being happy with the product that you chose to buy. I am smitten with the iPT4 and was extremely pleased with the upgrade. If I wanted ALL the features of an iPhone exactly as they are today, I would have bought an iPHONE and not wasted my time griping about what isn't perfect about the Touch.:D
 
If I wanted ALL the features of an iPhone exactly as they are today, I would have bought an iPHONE and not wasted my time griping about what isn't perfect about the Touch.:D

Except a lot of people don't want to pay for mandatory data plans. They want the same features on a WiFi only version.
 
Except a lot of people don't want to pay for mandatory data plans. They want the same features on a WiFi only version.

...and because they are going to be more price-sensitive than iPhone 4 buyers too, they don't want it to cost $500 either, which is why so many think the Touch is a reasonable compromise.
 
...and because they are going to be more price-sensitive than iPhone 4 buyers too, they don't want it to cost $500 either, which is why so many think the Touch is a reasonable compromise.

An unsubsidized iPhone is overpriced. There's no reason for it to be priced so high, other than Apple can get away with it. If the touch had the same markup as the iPhone, it to would cost over $500.

iPhone 4 16GB: cost = $188 ..... sell = $599

touch 4G 32GB: cost = ??? ..... sell = $299
 
An unsubsidized iPhone is overpriced. There's no reason for it to be priced so high, other than Apple can get away with it. If the touch had the same markup as the iPhone, it to would cost over $500.

iPhone 4 16GB: cost = $188 ..... sell = $599

touch 4G 32GB: cost = ??? ..... sell = $299

So Apple is giving us a stellar deal! Parrrrty! :D

P.S. Since there are persistent shortages, economics would seem to dictate that, if anything, the iPhone 4 is priced too low. Also cost of components != cost of a device, neither of which have much to do with the value of an object on the market.
 
Also cost of components != cost of a device, neither of which have much to do with the value of an object on the market.

As the saying goes, there's a sucker born every minute; and in the Apple universe, there's one born every nano second. :D
 
An unsubsidized iPhone is overpriced. There's no reason for it to be priced so high, other than Apple can get away with it. If the touch had the same markup as the iPhone, it to would cost over $500.

iPhone 4 16GB: cost = $188 ..... sell = $599

touch 4G 32GB: cost = ??? ..... sell = $299

Don't forget R&D costs, software development, licenses, etc. They can't just bill you for the materials they used to build it.
 
Don't forget R&D costs, software development, licenses, etc. They can't just bill you for the materials they used to build it.

And they're not doing that on either device. Look at the cost/sell ratio of the two and explain why the addition of GPS and 3G warrants a higher markup?
 
I agree 100%.

I've owned an iPhone since Day 1 (yeah, stood in line for a few hours). I also have an iPad, so over the years I've become pretty accustomed to what iOS brings to the table.

That said, I am absolutely blown away by how much they crammed into the iPod Touch 4th Gen. It's an amazing device.

I'm not that old, (and some of you will no doubt laugh at this), but when I took computer class in school, we programmed by punching holes in paper cards and loading them into hoppers... My distant future was mapped out by shows like Space 1999 (a far off year at the time). In Space 1999, they had Facetime (on little 1" square CRT screens in boxes the size of a heavy duty flashlight...). When people complain about the VGA resolution on the front camera, I just have to laugh.

It's about the size of a quarter deck of playing cards, records High Definition video, has TWO cameras, an accelerometer and gyroscope, etc etc... It's a freaking technological miracle, and Apple manages to make all this tech accessible to the common person on the street.

Most companies would lose people at the "boot code loader screen" or the "gyroscope configuration wizard".

I am not an Apple Fanboy. I'm a technology fanboy. I love all kinds of tech, it's just that Apple keeps coming out with really cool tech.

I wish the other guys would wake up and make something amazing. Not some white bread knock off of an iGizmo, something that creates a new market.

Come on HP, Microsoft, Google and Dell... Make something to blow us away.
 
Yup; and the iPhone is better. Too bad the carriers force us into data plans.

Yup, cool stuff costs, and even cooler stuff costs more. Google tried it the independent way and it didn't work. People just don't want to pay $500+ for handhold wireless devices.
 
Yup, cool stuff costs, and even cooler stuff costs more. Google tried it the independent way and it didn't work. People just don't want to pay $500+ for handless wireless devices.

I wouldn't pay that much either. It's a total rip off. A 32GB iPod touch 4G retails for $300; so an unsubsidized 32GB iPhone 4 should retail for $350, not $700.
 
I'm not yet a convert. I've got a little bit of money coming my way and I had all but set it in stone I was taking it to the Apple store for an iPT4. Lo and behold, I log onto Facebook to a picture a friend snazilly tagged as 'taken with my iPod :D". I almost puked. No thanks. I'll put this next sum towards a case and a screen protector. I can more than sit tight.

FaceTime doesn't concern me. 5 of my about 170 friends own iDevices. Only Three including me were even thinking to upgrade. It won't be worth it for a quite a while if this is the rate of Apple's penetration.

The proccessors/retina. I'm still awestruck everytime I load up a movie on this 3 and a half inch screen. Plus, the second I restore from a jaulbreak, our iPod's are snappy as ever. Maybe we've forgotten. They've clearly reminded you as you guys eill be sitting stock for a while.

What I've got will do. The IPT4 isn't my "grand slam" is all.
 
No Grand Slam reason

The new iPod touch is not a grand slam for me. The reason is I only use my recently bought iPod touch 8 GB from the Back to School promotion for music purposes. I don't see the need to spend a couple hundred bucks for things I may not use. I just like the screen estate and the functionality of the touchscreen.
 
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