fisherking
macrumors G5
if you don't understand the (simple) logic of this, so it goes. and if you can't find a use for it, don't use it. also simple!
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Not Really Loving iOS 14
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if you don't understand the (simple) logic of this, so it goes. and if you can't find a use for it, don't use it. also simple!
No - I do understand what you and Ansath said. My "suggestion" - and others who have suggested it here - is that at least for me it would make sense to allow us to somehow circumvent their system so that we can use the Library and find what we want without having the apps duplicated on our home screen also. I realize it is the developers who categorize the apps and that is how the App Library is set up, just would like the option of changing it to suit my needs. But I do like the idea of the Library.
AZhappyjack
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What is confusing about the fact that you can already do that? Create your own categories ("folders") and ignore the App Library. Why is that so hard for some to grasp?
And nothing is "duplicated". Each app is still only installed one time, regardless of whether or not you add it to the home screen and the App Library.
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dk001
macrumors demi-god
Not realistic.
It is new functionality, on beta, and I am trying it out to see how it works and where it would fit into my future use along with discrepant functionality. In the end I may not use it. Till then ...
fisherking
macrumors G5
dk001
macrumors demi-god
fisherking
macrumors G5
dk001
macrumors demi-god
End of discussing this with you. You take my post out of context and expect a definitive answer.
Later.
The-Real-Deal82
macrumors P6
It could be ignored or there could be the option to deactivate it from even occupying a screen on the device. That would work too if the user has no need for it. You don’t even need to try and ignore it then.
MozMan68
macrumors 603
You could argue that they should have provided the "hide" option for the app library as well, but Apple obviously has a reason not to. I'm guessing one reason is that if they did give that option, people would hide it without actually trying it.
I think I covered it in my post above as far as options that folks have, but I don't work for Apple and I also don't think folks can really properly evaluate the benefit of the app library until 3rd party widgets are available. I for one am loving the app library, but I've also forced myself to use it with the layout of my screens. It actually makes sense to me for the way I use my phone and I can see why it will for other "non-power" users as well.
adrianlondon
macrumors 604
It's a library. They should use the Dewey Decimal classification 🙂
gwhizkids
macrumors G5
Or people would hide it and not know how to get it back. Imagine the Apple Care calls! “All my apps are gone!”
dmccloud
macrumors 68040
You said "Not realistic" in response to another poster saying that if you don't like it, don't use it. Then at the end of the very same post, you admitted that "In the end I may not use it". You literally contradicted yourself in the span of two lines of text.
The Library of Congress classification system is closer to what Apple is using for the App Library.
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If the App Library worked as you just described, there would be absolutely no need for it, as the functionality you want already exists in iOS. You have the ability now to categorize apps based on your personal preferences through the use of folders.
dk001
macrumors demi-god
And that applies.
This is a beta. If we are running the beta we should try to test all functions and features to see what works and what doesn't. To just "not use it" in a beta is not realistic. You think differently?
dmccloud
macrumors 68040
Most people are not going to test every feature and function of a beta OS. They will test those elements that apply to their business or personal interests. From a developer perspective, I would not waste time and resources testing the App Library when it has absolutely no bearing on how my app(s) will work with the new version of iOS/iPadOS. The only way the App Library even pertains to my app would be based on the category/categories I assigned to the app when I submitted it to the App Store. I would be significantly more interested in App Clips then the App Library, because that can affect how customers interact with and use my program.
What's amusing is, the people that say that they don't want to accidentally swipe and see it, have no issue with the Today page, which is a similar principle.
adrianlondon
macrumors 604
Noooooooooo! Now they're gonna complain about that, too 😁
Well, they're a bit late to the game, if they only start complaining about it now, as Today has been there for years. Of course, no one would have double standards and not have an issue with accidentally swiping to that screen, surely? 😂
MozMan68
macrumors 603
One never swiped right though before home was added...but swiping left is quite common to get to multiple pages of folders/apps.
They can just add the ability to "hide" it in a later iOS if people are really bothered by it, but I doubt that will ever happen. As someone who had every app in a folder, I love single tapping into the more common apps I use while still seeing notifications for ones I don't use that often. A much cleaner design IMHO and I have hidden all my old pages.
Donnation
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The biggest problem I'm having is going to be wanting to part with my iOS 13 Jailbreak. I guess I'm going to have to if I want to update watchOS and sync with my phone, but I get so much better functionality out of my 11 Pro Max as a jailbroken device.
JBGoode
macrumors 65816
For the people who don't understand the concept of the app library. Really?
It's for people with pages and pages of uncategorized/rarely used applications. They can hide the screens with all of these apps and have them appear on one page in folders.
How fricking hard is that to figure out? It might not be useful to you, but to say you don't understand the purpose/concept is ridiculous.
It's for people with pages and pages of uncategorized/rarely used applications. They can hide the screens with all of these apps and have them appear on one page in folders.
How fricking hard is that to figure out? It might not be useful to you, but to say you don't understand the purpose/concept is ridiculous.
I'd argue that if you had more than 1 page of apps, you would swipe right accidentally to Today, as you would accidentally swipe left to App Library..... I can guarantee if I did, then many others do too.
Be consistent, if people want to have the ability to hide App Library, then the same must occur for Today.
MozMan68
macrumors 603
I wasn't saying it couldn't happen, I was saying that people are more likely to swipe left as some do that all day long to get to their other app pages from their starting page. How often do you swipe right to get "back" to your starting page where you then could accidentally swipe right again to get to the home page?
That's what I think most are complaning about...they are constantly swiping left and now will stop on the app library page instead of their last page of apps. I always kept my apps in folders on one page to avoid swiping at all, so never affected me, but I can see why some might not like having it there.
And I've now taken the opposite route where I'm using only widgets and the app library...no more apps or folders. I swipe left quickly BECAUSE i know I will end on the app library. Everyone is different.
Dino F
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....personally, I see the app library as completely pointless and not useful at all if users cannot actually rename the folders that Apple creates here.
Instead of now hunting for apps spread over say 2 or 3 pages, you'll now be hunting the same apps in the library because they have been placed in a folder named something other than what you would expect it to be named.
🙄
Instead of now hunting for apps spread over say 2 or 3 pages, you'll now be hunting the same apps in the library because they have been placed in a folder named something other than what you would expect it to be named.
🙄
AZhappyjack
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Exactly... and what is the harm in "accidentally" seeing it? If you swipe too far, just swipe back. But then what would they complain about?