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Blu-ray has been out for 7 years now (launched in 2006). It has not replaced - or even come close.

Optical media is all but dead. Launching another format isn't going to work.

I did a little research and on the new titles BluRay now accounts for around 45% of sales versus 55% for DVD. I would guess that is entirely down to the price differential that still exists. Once that's gone DVD will be history.

It's very misleading to state that BluRay has been out for seven years without mentioning the HD battle that took place between HDD and BluRay for at least 2 of those years. It's only when one standard won out did the studios feel confident enough to fully back BluRay. It then takes time to get BluRay players into people's homes and to gradually bring the price of the disks down.
 
There, stopped reading right at "analyst". Until there is substantial evidence, I have learnt to turn a deaf ear to analysts' predictions.

Not sure of you point because I stopped reading after you said "stopped reading". I'd be an idiot to listen to someone that didn't even read the article.

I stopped reading after you stopped reading what they stopped reading.

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Legally you are required to pay sales tax to California for products you buy mail order and didn't pay any sales tax on. It might be called a use tax or something else depending on your state, but some states even have a line on the tax forms for it.

Do people pay usually pay it? No. That's why states are looking for ways to get the sales tax collected by the larger companies like Amazon. In the future you will be paying sales tax on most products ordered out of state since the states don't trust people to pay it on their own at the end of the year.

Legally, people are required to pay income tax on interest earned. Do all people do so? No, they move it to foreign countries to avoid this.

The US has been clamping down on that in particular with Swiss banks. And in Europe, the EU is moving fast into requiring banks in all EU countries (and close neighbours like Switzerland) to ensure that banks inform the tax authorities of any interest earned by any EU citizen/resident.

It is interesting that not paying sales tax is widely accepted behaviour but not paying income tax on interest is getting increasingly frowned upon.
 
That doesn't hurt me. But we should look at the big picture, and then it's perhaps not excellent news.

First, if the cMBP is kept in production, that may also mean that Apple will not drop the prices of the rMBP this time. This is bad news for lots of people who wished to have one of these amazing laptops and can't afford them. They'll have to do with a cMPB which is a lesser machine.

Second, it means that less developers will have incentives to design retina-ready applications and webpages.

Third, it's an incentive to keep old technology (such as CDs, DVDs and Ethernet ports) alive.

There's still people who need DVD drivers and Ethernet ports. Well, for those people there are external CD/DVD drivers, and a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter. They're not left out in the rain. It may be inconvenient to carry the Thunderbolt adapter and the external driver together with the rMBP, but the pack is still lighter than a cMBP. And, if prices go down, they may cost about the same too.

The only thing that you could complain is that the rMBP is not user-upgradeable as it has soldered parts. And, indeed, this is a very legitimate complain.

Or they could simply re engineer the retina and make it user upgradeable as it should have been from the beginning.

Problem solved, and then there wouldn't be a need for the classic
 
I really hope they upgrade the 15 inch rMBP because I'm thinking of getting it this summer. It'll be nice to see the price drop too! Might make me actually buy it!

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Also, what is a Haswell chip?
 
The fact that Apple is making money out of sales of cMBP may be good for the company and for the shareholders, but it doesn't necessarily affect consumers. So, it's not necessarily good or bad.

As for the battery consumption in the rMBA, I may be wrong, but I don't know how much it would be affected.

There are cell phones featuring 1920x1080 display resolutions and that still get a good battery life. Look at their batteries: they are tiny in comparison to the battery a MBA can handle. The improvement in screen resolution didn't require a huge battery. The Samsung Galaxy S2 had a 800x480 display resolution, and the S4 has 1920x1080. It's five times more. The battery of the S4 has 2600mAh and the S2 has 1650 mAh, but the weight of both phones is very similar.

Toshiba is releasing the Kirabook next month, with a screen resolution of 2560x1440 in a body which is lighter than the MBA. And it still gets good battery life (according to Toshiba). And it comes with Ivy Bridge, which has none of the battery-saving capabilities of Haswell.

I don't swallow this battery excuse. I remember that, prior to the release of the rMBP, people kept insisting that putting a retina display on the MacBook Pro would be impossible due to battery consumption. I kept saying it was possible. Then Apple released it, and it suddenly became possible, and everybody seemed to immediately forget everything they were saying about the impossibility of a retina display on a Mac. Now, people keep insisting on the impossibility of a retina MacBook Air. It's the same story all over again. People have short memory. Just look at last year's posts here at MacRumors forums, and you'll see.


I don't buy the battery excuse for not releasing a rMBA this year either. I think there's a rMBA prototype being tested in the Apple labs right now. If Apple doesn't release a rMBA this year, I think it will be more likely that Apple didn't believe the market would accept the significant price increase for it and they need to bring production costs down first.

As for the optical drive on the what I like to call, the legacy models, I think they'll be gone in the next year or two. External optical drives will be the option for those who still use them.
 
I did a little research and on the new titles BluRay now accounts for around 45% of sales versus 55% for DVD. I would guess that is entirely down to the price differential that still exists. Once that's gone DVD will be history.

That;s a very misleading data.

Which titles were you looking at that show 45/55?

Plus, and let's not forget, the Blu-ray SKU almost always includes a Blu-ray, DVD, Digital and/or UV Code and possibly a 3D Disc for about $5 more. The DVD is just the DVD.

It's very misleading to state that BluRay has been out for seven years without mentioning the HD battle that took place between HDD and BluRay for at least 2 of those years. It's only when one standard won out did the studios feel confident enough to fully back BluRay. It then takes time to get BluRay players into people's homes and to gradually bring the price of the disks down.

The "battle" was a year and half. Keep in mind DVD didn't have full studio support until 2000, since some studios supported Divx (like Paramount and Disney). So the format war means nothing when full studio support came faster for Blu-ray than DVD.
 
I'd expect iOS 7 and osx9 to be the highlights software - wise. If they aren't announced I'd be pretty stunned.
 
Sorry but you are completely wrong. I've been in the DVD/Blu-Ray industry since it was created (and we were 1 of the original 2 beta houses for DVD) and the trend for BR is not good.

Blu-Ray IS NOT succeeding in terms of what the industry wants. In fact, streaming is outpacing it so much that studios are not committing to Blu-Ray titles vs putting the $$ into the streaming categories. My one friend works for Paramount and another WB, both in their home video departments. Both were pulled from BR authoring to do compression services due to the demand of streaming. Their BR titles are just now the major hits and they don't do anything else.

Just like DVDA/HDA didn't take off because of the portable MP3 player and the audio went straight to DLs, the same thing is occurring for Blu-Ray. ..the penetrating is not where the studios want it and their commitment to it is waning.

BTW, if you take the average consumer and put a upconverted DVD vs Blu-Ray in front of them on a screen, most cannot tell the difference.

The next optical disc will shoot for 4K video for players but it's main focus is for storage since right now, HD storage is just not reliable enough for long term archiving.

I'm sure streaming will have it's place just like iTunes downloads have their place in the market but if I come back to my original point if you don't have a super fast broadband network you're never going to have a streaming marketplace, which is why optical disks will always have a place. Ok maybe not in the US - presumably you've all got 100Mb connections over there.

In the UK 1 in 9 households don't have a fixed line phone or broadband connection. In most emerging markets that figure is considerably higher. That's the future. When you can stream HD movies from Netflix using mobile broadband anywhere in the world then I will believe it's the future.

I think we are just looking at things from a different perspective. Naturally you are looking at what is happening in the US whereas I tend to look at what is happening in the rest of the world.
 
He wasn't a rep but never mind. The point still stands that Ultra HD TVs will start to replace current HD TVs over time starting later this year. Technology naturally moves on from one thing to the next. You will see a big push by the manufacturers for Ultra HD ahead of next summers football (soccer) World Cup and a major push on BluRay Ultra HD films by Christmas 2014.

There is nothing "fake" about Ultra HD films being made. The 4K cameras have been around for a while and film makers have been gradually migrating across.
Maybe I missed something on this topic, but what is the current delivery medium for 4K video? Pushing it via cable like standard (HD)TV probably is the easiest. But are there any disk formats that can hold 4K content?
 
I don't understand why people don't think IOS 7 and OS 10.9 won't be the highlights of WWDC2013. This analyst said he thought the "product highlight" would be the Haswell MBP. The Product. Meaning hardware. WWDC is and has always been about developers and new API's for upcoming software and OS's.

Nothing has changed. Phil Schiller said he can't wait to get IOS 7 and OS 10.9 into the hands of developers.

What the guy means is he doesn't think Apple will introduce a Mac Pro or an iWatch or the fabled Apple Television.
 
Maybe I missed something on this topic, but what is the current delivery medium for 4K video? Pushing it via cable like standard (HD)TV probably is the easiest. But are there any disk formats that can hold 4K content?
Sony, the biggest Blu-ray pusher, is releasing this:

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This summer, consumers of Sony's 4K UHD TVs can purchase the FMP-X1 4K Media Player bundled with 10 feature films and video shorts in true 4K resolution for $699. In the fall of 2013, users of the same 4K Media Player will be given access to a fee-based video distribution service offering a library of 4K titles from Sony Pictures Entertainment and other notable production houses. The feature films included with purchase of the 4K Media Player are:

Bad Teacher
Battle: Los Angeles
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Karate Kid (2010)
Salt
Taxi Driver
That's My Boy
The Amazing Spider-Man
The Other Guys
Total Recall (2012)
 
That is possible but then SACD failed to get any traction (though the difference between DVD and Blu-ray is much more noticeably than the difference between a red-book CD and a SACD).

The internet reduced the volume of media purchased on disk considerably and those sticking to DVDs (in favour of Blu-Ray) or CDs (in favour of SACDs) probably also stick more to physical disks than downloads. Thus, the more relevant market to gauge the success of HD video is the download sector. If HD is getting traction there, then it will likely replace SD video in the medium term.

SACD came to market way too late... if it was there in 1992 it might have had a chance.

One thing that Digital media is the speed it takes to get into a movie. Disney are the main worst for this... 5 IN CINEMAS NOW Trailers, COMING SOON, Etc all hopelessly outdated when you play it 4 years later and you can't skip anything!! I freaking bought this Blu ray. Play the film already. I've found a lot of older people don't care about HD at all and claim to not even see the difference.

I am all for the digital future. I'd spend a £40 a month for a subscription to watch and listen to anything.
 
That;s a very misleading data.

Which titles were you looking at that show 45/55?

Plus, and let's not forget, the Blu-ray SKU almost always includes a Blu-ray, DVD, Digital and/or UV Code and possibly a 3D Disc for about $5 more. The DVD is just the DVD.

The "battle" was a year and half. Keep in mind DVD didn't have full studio support until 2000, since some studios supported Divx (like Paramount and Disney). So the format war means nothing when full studio support came faster for Blu-ray than DVD.

Are you suggesting that BluRay is going to die and everyone will go back to DVD? Yes or No?
 
They should eliminate the keyboard on the macbook air while making the screen around 10" and touch compatible. =)
 
I can't quite understand how you come to that strange conclusion.

Continuing to sell the cMBPs means that it is more beneficially to Apple to continue selling cMBPs than to stop selling them, or at least that Apple believes so. For any other conclusion you would have to put up some justification, and you failed to do so.

It's an opinion. I think Apple would rather spend time and money on the rMBP than on the cMBP. It's clearly where they want to go. I think they thought that the rMBP would sell better than it has so they could discontinue the cMBP, use those resources toward continued development of the rMBP, and simplify the line. Again, this is my opinion and by no means fact.
 
BS and racist.

Middle class in India is defined as an annual income of $10k to $50k (US dollars).
LOL! Why is that a racist comment? Perhaps incorrect but certainly nothing to do with ethnicity.

You media brain-washed folks crack me up. Always reading between lines that aren't there and jumping to conclusions. :)
 
Are you suggesting that BluRay is going to die and everyone will go back to DVD? Yes or No?

Huh? Where the hell did you even get that from?

Consumers are moving onto streaming and downloading. The day of "owning" titles is ending.
 
Sony, the biggest Blu-ray pusher, is releasing this

The disks are going to be called BluRay Ultra HD. That's going to be the official name in the shops. 4K relates to the player.

Not surprising that Sony are pushing things as they invented BluRay. The PlayStation 4 will support 4k movies so expect a big push once that comes out later this year.
 
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