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Notes of Interest on Thunderbolt and MacBook Pro
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Well while that makes sense it's also disappointing about the lack of an expansion for my 2009 MP. Looks like I have another two years before I can take advantage of it then. (Business depreciation naturally)
It requires a lot of onboard hardware to implement beyond data only. You may be able to pull it off using Lucid's Virtu hardware to hot swap between an onoard IGP and GPU regardless of brand, drivers, or changing display connectors.
Once more that is more hardware logic to throw into the mix.
Voltage?
Anyone has any ideas about the voltage of Thunderbolt? The only information I can find is that it can power devices up to 10W. I would assume 5V to make it easier to build USB adapters but I might as well be wrong.
Or is the voltage really unregulated? This would require each Thunderbolt device to have its own voltage regulator...
Anyone has any ideas about the voltage of Thunderbolt? The only information I can find is that it can power devices up to 10W. I would assume 5V to make it easier to build USB adapters but I might as well be wrong.
Or is the voltage really unregulated? This would require each Thunderbolt device to have its own voltage regulator...
Remove your optical, slap a couple of these babies in there (RAID-0):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4159/ocz-vertex-3-pro-preview-the-first-sf2500-ssd
And you will saturate the (one channel) of the TB bus.
Unregulated is possible. Firewire is unregulated.
Mini DisplayPort can supply 3.3v at 500mA (less than 2W). Perhaps there are separate connectors that expand this capability, or maybe that 500mA has been up-specced.
I haven't seen any details - but if I had to put money on it, I'd wager 12v or 18v, just to keep the current down (3A at 3.3v is a lot for such a slim cable). An 18V 0.5A line in addition to the 3.3v would make sense.
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Yes that's for sure. After all it's only going to be one hour less than 2010's. No big deal.
That would be cool, they could take the latest high speed technology and make it as fast as USB1
It'd still be the fastest Drobo ever!!Took the effort to set up laptop, array, display - in a company lobby or Ruby Tuesdays? Either was just as noisy.
I was waiting for the guy to turn around and tell everyone to shut up...... very amateurish and annoying video.
I read your posts because they are simple, to the point, logical, and not filled with a lot of verbiage.
I can see a lot of issues going on with any device that would have to manage all of that firmware hardware and software.
Same here. Because unfortunate for some, I actually have a speedy Drobo S that's running circles around my G-Tech drives and LaCie RAIDs with only FW800 as the I/O
I haven't even tapped into it's potential with eSATA and would love to have a 6bay Drobo enclosure.
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can we connect two different computers with thuderbolt?
can we connect two different computers with thuderbolt?
probably not, it's a PCI-bus, I don't think it has network capabilities (maybe in the future)
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Kind of offensive...you people?!?!?!?!? I was in the same boat and I felt the same way then like I do now.
I am going to have to wait and see. The times have always proven to me that there's never really a limit in technology, just a lack of interest or desire or market need from the parties involved if you know what I mean. Since TB is using the PCIe x4 lane, and we already have plenty of bandwidth options as fast or faster than 10GBps in ethernet, FOE, and Fibre channel, there may not be much of a limitation on creating a TB card . . . . even if it only got us half of the proposed bandwidth.
True, but FCP is pulling from the source files on the Promise to create the composite image, and that image can be played back in full uncompressed 1080p. The engadget guy might not be smart enough to set the app for those settings, but it is stellar speed.
Not to mention, that it's pulling the four streams from the Promise, encoding in realtime on the MBP, spitting it back out on the canvas for FCP and the 27" ACD without any dropped frames.
TB is a nice step up from FW800 and in lots of ways eSATA since the bottleneck in many HD edit rigs was the I/O.
There is such a thing as a G-Technology TB drive? Link please
On the side, the sucky part about TB for current workstation owners is that they've spent $5000 for a decently equipped Mac Pro and are going to feel that lack of TB hurt down the line. Any company with the budget and the mind power WILL make a TB PCIe card for them, and most likely will charge whatever outrageous price they can.
If I were in that camp, and spend the paltry $5000 for a Mac Pro, I would definitely put another $800 or more in for a 2-6 port TB PCIe card.
You said you weren't sure if there was such a thing as a portable SSD drive
A standard PCIe card can't support Thunderbolt, because of slowness bandwidth (v3.0: 1 GB/s (8 Gb/s). Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express
But a 16 lane slot actually can:
So, do you think this is because of marketing (again)?
But a 16 lane slot actually can:
So, do you think this is because of marketing (again)?
"notes that while Apple doesn't have an exclusive on Thunderbolt, they have a head start:"
Nice way to put almost nobody has it and support on third party will be very limited al troughout 2011, that isnt a head start thats adding a mostly useless port.
Nice way to put almost nobody has it and support on third party will be very limited al troughout 2011, that isnt a head start thats adding a mostly useless port.
Wow. And I still gloat how well my 2008 white macbook works....
Seeing this and the tread on the new MBP benchmarks - makes me really wish I had a few thousand to spare. I would really love a new macbook pro and two Promise Pegasus storage arrays. One for all my data, and one for time machine backups. I read the drives are hot swappable, So I would implement the time-machine as Raid / failover. Then I could pull out one drive and send it off-site for backup in the case my home becomes a smoking pit.
Really cool potential here.
Can't wait to see the pricing on the storage arrays. Have a feeling the Lacie LIttle Big Disk may be the only consumer affordable one. The Promise Pegasus may be out of range. Both due next quarter.
Seeing this and the tread on the new MBP benchmarks - makes me really wish I had a few thousand to spare. I would really love a new macbook pro and two Promise Pegasus storage arrays. One for all my data, and one for time machine backups. I read the drives are hot swappable, So I would implement the time-machine as Raid / failover. Then I could pull out one drive and send it off-site for backup in the case my home becomes a smoking pit.
Really cool potential here.
Can't wait to see the pricing on the storage arrays. Have a feeling the Lacie LIttle Big Disk may be the only consumer affordable one. The Promise Pegasus may be out of range. Both due next quarter.
Q2 - both Lacie Little Big Disk and Promise Pegasus are saying summer (which could stretch all the way till September.
Interesting is, both a saying they will be in the Apple Stores. I can see that with Lacie; but I never seen a storage array like Pegasus in an apple store (USB, or SCSI). I am wondering on pricing for these. I read the Lacie one will feature two 512 SSD drives to make up the 1TB. That is going to be expensive.
Thunderbolt looks like a real winner to me. I'll be interested to see if we see licensing to AMD for Thunderbolt and the mini displayport connector to monitor manufacturers in the not too distant future.
Very elegant piece of technology.
Very elegant piece of technology.
Ok people complaining about battery life, Clearly you don't watch keynotes or read the fine print. Its wireless web testing. check out
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1010qwoeiuryfg/event/index.html
at 1:17:00 Steve Jobs explains the new testing, I'm bored so I will quote him.
"The PC Industries battery tests sometimes don't reflect real world results, and we're moving towards some more stringent tests that really we think are going to bring us much closer to real world results on battery tests. Even using these more stringent tests we're getting 7 hours [in the macbook air] wireless web battery life, our previous macbook air using the old more liberal test got only 5."
So thats why you see a jump from 10 to 7. And also when you compare to say a dell or HP, their batteries usually last half of what they say (In my experience). So if I can get 6-7 hours on my laptop surfing the web, thats still pretty awesome.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1010qwoeiuryfg/event/index.html
at 1:17:00 Steve Jobs explains the new testing, I'm bored so I will quote him.
"The PC Industries battery tests sometimes don't reflect real world results, and we're moving towards some more stringent tests that really we think are going to bring us much closer to real world results on battery tests. Even using these more stringent tests we're getting 7 hours [in the macbook air] wireless web battery life, our previous macbook air using the old more liberal test got only 5."
So thats why you see a jump from 10 to 7. And also when you compare to say a dell or HP, their batteries usually last half of what they say (In my experience). So if I can get 6-7 hours on my laptop surfing the web, thats still pretty awesome.
So glad you said that. I think quite a few people are going to see this and not realise that the harddrive is going to be a massive bottleneck. Especially with that guy in the video saying "700 Megabytes per second!" when actually he means Megabits per second.
A PCIe x4 slot has a 32Gb/s bandwidth. Well, when boards with v3.0 come out anyway.
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