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the power of pure will could bring out a new g4 powerbook...

I guess it always comes down to the same question. Whenever you buy a piece of technology, you HAVE to expect that in 6 months the same money could have bought you something better (faster, more features, better quality, etc..). OR, that what you bought will be simply cheaper.

I'm going to wait out today and tomorrow, and then probably snag a TiBook if nothing new comes. The 17 is just too big, I can't bring myself to go there.

If Apple misses this opportunity to introduce a new 15", I think they will have really torqued a lot of die hards... It'd better be one amazing new laptop!

...Jim
 
Apple have already said the G5 isn't going into the PowerBook anytime soon. That rumor is dead.

AppleMatt
 
No new updates as of 9:20am (MST) on 7-15-03. Wait for Wednesday. IF Apple really is pissed at IDG and wants to announce NOT at a show then possibly next week would be good for a PB update. I don't agree with this model but think IF an update were coming out it would be either this week or next.

If Apple does decide to wait longer then doom on them. They are screwing themselves. I know of many college students (more than 5) that are waiting for an updated 15" PB. They won't go for the 12 (too small) or the 17 (too big and too much for the little added screen space).

I presonally am sick of waiting for an updated PB. It just doesn't make sense to NOT have AT LEAST air port extreme available and FW800. Backlite keyboard would be nice but those are the major differences between the 15 and 17. As to the Ti case surplus - give me a break! After how many months?? They knew probably a year ago they would have Al PB lines. They couldn't plan on phasing out the Ti casings then and not get such a back log?! BS. Plus, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the motherboard in the 17" the same as the 15" in terms of size? I thought I heard this when the 17" was announced and if true what would delay putting that in a 15" casing? IF they do have a large surplus of Ti casing slap that other motherboard in the sucker. Bam - an update! If sales are slow that would at least boost them.

I won't switch to a Dell but I also won't buy an Apple laptop until a 15" model is released - and I am not caring that much about a speed bump, just airport extreme, fw800 and would be nice backlite keyboard, maybe upgraded graphics card. Apple will also lose some people who are thinking about switching (as evident here already). Like it or not it is a reality in a competitive market.

Yo Steve or Apple engineers - PULL YOUR HEADS OUT AND UPDATE THE 15" PB - NOW!!!

p.s. All will be forgiven if they introduce the G5 in the PB line in the next 3 months. A big IF.
 
If they don't announce anything tommorow, I think I'm going to have to go for the 17", despite my concerns about buying a laptop that comes with a built in mousepad...
 
To Macnews ditto except for the very last sentnce. I have my own time table for purchasing a new P-Bkb even if I do purchase the "Frankenbook".
Truth is, we must be realistic about what our needs are when we purchase a laptop. I would make things easier if we all worked on a time table of our choosing and not Apple's. Only then would they get the message because the bottom line is: We are the customers whom would buy their products and invest in their stock. Were that demand to go down, then they would be back in the same boat they were before (following the PC makers instead of leading it).
 
The great thing about notebooks...

is that you can carry them around with you.
No need to store them in a booth long before, needing all that security to watch over it... ;)
 
i hope they come out im going to a convention and am also incharge of a vr lab so not continuing my work and making sure people are updating the system is not an issue. apple is starting to slack off after the g5, the pb is long overdue and its seeming like apple is taking forever
 
Originally posted by macnews
No new updates as of 9:20am (MST) on 7-15-03. Wait for Wednesday. IF Apple really is pissed at IDG and wants to announce NOT at a show then possibly next week would be good for a PB update. I don't agree with this model but think IF an update were coming out it would be either this week or next.

If Apple does decide to wait longer then doom on them. They are screwing themselves. I know of many college students (more than 5) that are waiting for an updated 15" PB. They won't go for the 12 (too small) or the 17 (too big and too much for the little added screen space).

I presonally am sick of waiting for an updated PB. It just doesn't make sense to NOT have AT LEAST air port extreme available and FW800. Backlite keyboard would be nice but those are the major differences between the 15 and 17. As to the Ti case surplus - give me a break! After how many months?? They knew probably a year ago they would have Al PB lines. They couldn't plan on phasing out the Ti casings then and not get such a back log?! BS. Plus, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the motherboard in the 17" the same as the 15" in terms of size? I thought I heard this when the 17" was announced and if true what would delay putting that in a 15" casing? IF they do have a large surplus of Ti casing slap that other motherboard in the sucker. Bam - an update! If sales are slow that would at least boost them.

I won't switch to a Dell but I also won't buy an Apple laptop until a 15" model is released - and I am not caring that much about a speed bump, just airport extreme, fw800 and would be nice backlite keyboard, maybe upgraded graphics card. Apple will also lose some people who are thinking about switching (as evident here already). Like it or not it is a reality in a competitive market.

Yo Steve or Apple engineers - PULL YOUR HEADS OUT AND UPDATE THE 15" PB - NOW!!!

p.s. All will be forgiven if they introduce the G5 in the PB line in the next 3 months. A big IF.
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Yep, I'm a college student and I was waiting for an updated 15" PB since February. If they don't update anything by Mid August, I'm going for a PC laptop.
 
Yep, I'm a college student and I was waiting for an updated 15" PB since February. If they don't update anything by Mid August, I'm going for a PC laptop.
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rezet you prove my point on the other posts. apple need to get on it

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=31772&goto=newpost


there saying that apple won't lose alot of buisness if they don't release them really soon. i mean i have confidence in apple but they have to be realistic the 15" alPB is long overdue
 
If as some mention, the PB is in a Powermac type non development zone ie Motorola stall with bumping the G4 and the G5 needs development time, maybe its time for Apple to get their marketing act together and actually get across the message of how productive a Mac is compared to a PC.

I have an old 867 Powerbook, and my mates have the latest 3 monthly released whizzy mega Mhz Pcs. I honestly fail to see how they have got a better computer experience than me. For goodness sake, Apple, do whatever it takes to show the world that a "slow" but cleverly formed Mac with OSX and iLife can skin the opposition with their great sounding specs. And when Apple are ready to launch a monster G5 PB, then let all the professionals who need them go wow while the majority user bask in "old technology" for a while longer.

My repetitive 2 cents worth

Apple
 
As has been pointed out, the rebates on Laptops are until Sept.

I think you're all taking this "year of the notebook" comment way to seriously. Apple will release new Books when they're available. If it's a small update, they'll probably release it right away, so they could be being made right now. They could be waiting for a steady supply. Or they don't want to announce something tiny that won't be available for awhile.

Do you really think they would have a bunch of new 'Books just lying around, waiting to be unveiled, dragging their feet?

They'll be released when they're ready.

You can buy a Dell, but you probably won't be happy. My Step-Moms Dell Notebook is terrible. It's heavy and the battery life alone makes it worthless. If you need a notebook NOW, buy a 17", or even 15", notebook. Unless you need the latest stuff, you'll probably be happy.

I see a minor speed and feature bump in Sept. (or sooner).
 
Originally posted by solvs
As has been pointed out, the rebates on Laptops are until Sept.
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I was reading the terms of the rebates, and this is what it says:

Order and take possession of qualifying products from May 30, 2003, through September 27, 2003.
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So... technically they could announce them in September and ship them on Monday (the 29th) and those people couldn't qualify for the rebate... since they wouldn't have received them by the 27th. Just food for thought.
 
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
I was reading the terms of the rebates, and this is what it says:

So... technically they could announce them in September and ship them on Monday (the 29th) and those people couldn't qualify for the rebate... since they wouldn't have received them by the 27th. Just food for thought.
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If they ordered on the 27th, that would be the order date. Doesn't matter when they received it.
 
Originally posted by ZildjianKX
Sure it does.
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If your order form says you paid for it on a certain day, that's when you bought it. Not when you receive it. Now if they didn't ship it to you right way, and waited to charge you, that would be another thing. Then there would be a lot of angry students. (That does sound weird though, order and take possession. I see what you mean)

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Since there were no 'Book updates today, this scenario now looks even more likely. Shipping end of Sept. Tiny, quiet update. They'll lose some sales, but they'll sell off their inventory in the mean time. I'm thinking Moto doesn't have the new chips ready, so they wait. So we wait.

I doubt Apple would be sitting on new, ready to be released 15".

I really hope I'm wrong... maybe next week. :D
 
I really hate waiting for the new the PB, I wish they would just release it so I can get it for school! :eek:

Can anyone point me towards more info on the PB rebate?
 
I hate that everyone is dissing the TiBook. Sure it's what? 4-5 months behind the Al's? The Ti, even if updated, will be made slower than the 17 to keep the 17 valuable. Right now the 15 is faster than the 12 and slower than the 17. My xBench score is 86.83, and the Ti is nowhere near slow. The only lackluster thing that may be in the Ti slowing it down is no AE nor DDR. I however do not use wireless much (not have a need for BT) however 3rd party addons will make the Ti BT capable and 802.11g ready. I haven't noticed any slowdown with SDR than DDR. The Ti is pretty much the fastest portable I've used and people need to stop comparing it to Apple's 17 which was designed to be faster.
 
Originally posted by Schiffi
I hate that everyone is dissing the TiBook. Sure it's what? 4-5 months behind the Al's? The Ti, even if updated, will be made slower than the 17 to keep the 17 valuable. Right now the 15 is faster than the 12 and slower than the 17. My xBench score is 86.83, and the Ti is nowhere near slow. The only lackluster thing that may be in the Ti slowing it down is no AE nor DDR. I however do not use wireless much (not have a need for BT) however 3rd party addons will make the Ti BT capable and 802.11g ready. I haven't noticed any slowdown with SDR than DDR. The Ti is pretty much the fastest portable I've used and people need to stop comparing it to Apple's 17 which was designed to be faster.
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I think people are just dissappointed with the Tibook overall. with the introduction of the 12 and the 17, the expectation was that the problems with the 15 would be resolved with an impending update - ram, processor, screen hinges, airport signal, airport extreme, bluetooth, and (ugh!) that damn paint. When Apple kept passing opportune times to update the model, the problems just seemed to get worse and worse.

It's a decent machine, but when it's sitting next to its 12 and 17 inch cousins, its flaws really stand out.
 
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