So there is no electronic serial number in these phones that you can give the provider to permanently keep them from being activated? I know with sprint and Verizon does. You input a number format and it gives you your phone serial. If you lose it or it gets stolen you call and give it to them and that phone is germanely disabled and reported stolen. It can never be activated again so its just a piece of junk. I guess it's a CDMA thing.