Nov. 3 units have the higher-standard Face ID?

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  1. Synomenon macrumors 6502

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    So there were reports that Apple had to relax their strict standard for Face ID to make it easier to manufacture. I wonder if the first batch of X's to ship still have the higher-standard Face ID...
     
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    Can't wait for people to begin obsessing over how to parse their serial number and manufacture date to determine if they got the "good one" or the "bad one" like chipgate. :)
     
  6. DevinNj macrumors 6502a

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    Yup, you know it's coming like:
    Mine was made on a Friday, and they have "casual Fridays" in the factory, should I be worried?
     
  7. Hyperion0808 macrumors member

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    Hahaha, its so true though. You would think this is a forum for personal dialysis machines or something, IT IS A PHONE. I understand it's probably the most important device most of us have but damn. It doesn't matter anyway because this is the phone Apple has chosen to design and release. If you don't want it buy another lol.
     
  8. balaplus macrumors 6502

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    That is scandalous!
    Mine doesn't arrive until 13 :p
     
  9. AdonisSMU, Nov 1, 2017
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    AdonisSMU macrumors 604

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    Apple said explicitly that this was in fact false. Lol!

    Poor everyone else who didn’t get a launch day unit with the full FaceID. :D
     
  10. DevinNj macrumors 6502a

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    I heard December deliveries will only use nostril recognition. Left nostril to be exact!
     
  11. Jjayf macrumors 6502

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    Not only that.. Due to the difficulties in manufacture of the first units, there will be an astronomical rate of failure from manufacture defects.. :face palm..
     
  12. Kingmarz, Nov 1, 2017
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    Of course Apple is not going to admit they laxed on standards for try depth sensors after launch day iPhones were already manufactured and if i was getting an X after launch day i wouldn’t want to believe it either so i don’t blame you guys. However, we do know that after the initial shipments Apple had a meeting with manufacturers to figure out how to speed up the process, low and behold by end of day a solution had come about and everything was fixed. Hmmmm *scratching head* What logical solution can there be that can be done quickly when we know the issue was Apple demanding insane specs? Relax the accuracy from 1 in a million to 1 in 500,000. IMO those of you getting X’s after launch should be expecting this and know that you won’t be able to prove this and it is still going to be more secure than the 1 in 50,000 accuracy of the touch i.d. : ) cheers - the guy with a launch day X
     
  13. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    Just because a theory can be imagined doesn't mean that's the case or is even likely without something more to it than simply being "fitting".
     
  14. TrueBlou macrumors 68040

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    They have casual Friday? That’s a thing now? Oh man that’s going to put a big black cloud over my new iPhone. Although, I’m picking it up on Friday and I’ll be having a casual day. Do the two cancel each other out???? Ah hell this is going to be a nightmare.
     
  15. Kingmarz, Nov 1, 2017
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    Kingmarz macrumors member

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    Exactly, that’s apples argument. Fully aware of the standards being laxed while saving money on manufacturing. confident and content knowing that buyers will have your mentality. Plus what are you going to do? Not get the phone? F$&k no! I know I’m still getting it knowing even me as a launch guy could be getting a laxed unit. however, when i heard the rumors i knew all i could do is get it as early as possible.
     
  16. borgqueenx macrumors 65816

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    I hope im not getting a monday morning iphone X!
     
  17. TrueBlou macrumors 68040

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    Seriously? C’mon let’s take the tinfoil hats off for a minute. Now I am a great believer in there’s no smoke without fire. So yes, I do think in all likelihood that Apple authorised a change in the manufacturing specifications or supply chain for the sensor arrays.

    But, do you have any idea how many hundreds of things can (and do regularly) change in the supply chain and manufacturing of any component or product, that actually have no negative impact on the final quality or reliability whatsoever. But can improve yield rates. And every single one of those changes has to be ratified, no matter how insignificant it may seem to you or I.

    So there’s every possibility that Apple did authorise a change somewhere in the supply chain or manufacturing. But there’s also just as much, if not more, likelihood that whatever the change was has no bearing on quality or reliability whatsoever.

    The media however can make a ********* out of a shoelace for the sake of clicks. Taking a, production yield of crucial Face ID components only began to improve in September story and ending up with, Apple reduces accuracy of Face ID to meet demand.

    Something that has not only been categorically denied by Apple but having produced numerous papers and reports on Face ID, including to government officials cannot be true. Having made certain claims as to the accuracy and security of Face ID, Apple cannot then reduce either of those factors without ending up in a bowl of **** they don’t ever want to be in.

    I do enjoy an early morning rant. Normal service will be resumed in 5....4....3.. :D
     
  18. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    Reports mean nothing and are not evidentiary that Apple would 'relax' they're strict standards for a security feature that is their largest investment for the iPhone X. Do NOT believe everything you read.
     
  19. balaplus macrumors 6502

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    Absolutely!
    Not just 10s of billions of dollars of sales but the very trust in the brand relies on Apple getting this right..
     
  20. AdonisSMU macrumors 604

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    OP, I guess if you want full FaceID you had better get in line.
     
  21. DNichter macrumors G3

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    Please. Just don't. Get your phone and enjoy it.
     
  22. TrueBlou macrumors 68040

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    Most sensible thing I’ve read today I think :D
     
  23. DNichter macrumors G3

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    It's so crazy to me. People will go on on and nitpick every little thing.
     
  24. TrueBlou macrumors 68040

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    Yeah, don’t get me wrong I enjoy a good debate as much as the next chap and I like to come on here to help people, as I often do publicly and privately. But sometimes, somethings do beggar belief on forums, not just these forums.

    I suppose that’s why we share so many opinions, either we believe in something, we disagree with something or we just find it incredulous. Such as this topic, I mean really, surely the op must have better things to worry about than something that simply can’t be and isn’t even true.
     

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