NVIDIA Exits Chipset Business for Good? Apple to Continue to Use Old NVIDIA Chipsets

[Yebubbleman]

Well, I certainly have nothing to back it up but I would think the 13" MBP outsells the 15" & 17" varieties, no? I know the white book is #1 overall.

13" MBP outsold every other shipping Mac at one point, though I get the feeling that time has since past, especially with these new MacBook Airs being somewhat of a hit. (They even look like thin 13" Pros for cryin' out loud!)

13.3" seems to be Apple's sweet spot otherwise they wouldn't have introduced another one.

Not necessarily; it makes sense to have one 13.3" laptop that is full featured, and then another that is an ultra-portable. Two that are full featured? Especially when the 13" Pro is essentially the successor of the middle and high-end configuration MacBooks of yesteryear?

do the math and see what going from a 16:10 display in the MBP to 16:9 measures out to be while keeping the same width. (I'm too lazy). Of course that means it won't be as deep. Is there room to do this?

I don't think it makes sense to even do that unless you make a larger bezel (as to keep machine depth and not sacrifice more), but at that point, why not have pixels on it?

 

[Galatian]

AMD's mobile quads aren't really much to talk about.

Funny to say that, considering that Apple doesn't even have a quad core for mobile out.
And I'm afraid they will keep the dual cores next year as well, just out of marketing reasons.

Oh and the nvidia GO 7900GS on my old Dell also failed twice in it's lifetime, which is a pretty good known problem. So that makes three consecutive families of mobile graphic cards faulty by design. That is pretty bad if you ask me. Never heard of anyone complain about ATI mobile graphic cards.

No to mention the fact that they are more powerful then nvidia both desktop and single card mobile.

 

[pr5owner]

Oh and the nvidia GO 7900GS on my old Dell also failed twice in it's lifetime, which is a pretty good known problem. So that makes three consecutive families of mobile graphic cards faulty by design. That is pretty bad if you ask me. Never heard of anyone complain about ATI mobile graphic cards.

No to mention the fact that they are more powerful then nvidia both desktop and single card mobile.

lol dell cases dont have proper cooling, thats probably why it died, also macbooks and macbookpros dont have proper cooling either, hmm seeing atrend here.

sure apple says the cpu can handle 80C and they have a low fan noise but seriously? can anything AROUND the cpu handle that? electronics hate being bathed in heat all the time, its the 1 thing that causes premature failure faster than anything.

 

[Galatian]

lol dell cases dont have proper cooling, thats probably why it died, also macbooks and macbookpros dont have proper cooling either, hmm seeing atrend here.

sure apple says the cpu can handle 80C and they have a low fan noise but seriously? can anything AROUND the cpu handle that? electronics hate being bathed in heat all the time, its the 1 thing that causes premature failure faster than anything.

Wrong! The Inspiron 9400 I was talking about actually had quite a good cooling concept. Gee that thing was almost as a big as a normal desktop. The reason it failed was because of the faulty graphic card. Nvidia admitted it long ago and all Dell's with the Go 7900 GS received and increased warranty (why do you think I had mine repaired for a second time after 4 years?...it was still under warranty because of that). Customers who purchased the 7900 GTX didn't had the problem and that was because there was an extra heatpipe added to the graphiccard. You see nvidia overlooked that inherent design flaw by the 7900 GS and on other cards as well. That's just not acceptable. I still got one of my old DOS computers in the basements and it works just fine. My old PC with an ATI card still runs fine. And I expect from products that cost me 1000€ + that they will last at least 10 to 15 years without major repair. I payed over 1000 € for my Miele Washingmachine. I know that it probably will last until I die. Or how about my car? I would sue Mercedes if my car breaks down just after 1 year. I guess that's not the business concept of nvidia so I actually welcome a switch to ATI.

Oh and yes the cooling concept of the MBP is not the best but it does get it's job done.

 

[pr5owner]

it gets the job done? i left folding@home running on some macs in bestbuy and 20 mins later half of them were scorching hot almost too hot to touch, thats not doing its job at all.

dont believe me? go to bestbuy and try it yourself, the air coming out is hot enough to burn you

 

[Galatian]

it gets the job done? i left folding@home running on some macs in bestbuy and 20 mins later half of them were scorching hot almost too hot to touch, thats not doing its job at all.

dont believe me? go to bestbuy and try it yourself, the air coming out is hot enough to burn you

Again I said it is not good, but it get's the job done. I think the whole aluminum case is used as a heatpipe as well. Otherwise I could not explain myself, why my MBP get's so hot all over.

But I use my MPV for video encoding and PC Games often, so it get's hot often and for a long time and it never stopped on me, so they are doing something right...

 

[Yebubbleman]

Funny to say that, considering that Apple doesn't even have a quad core for mobile out.
And I'm afraid they will keep the dual cores next year as well, just out of marketing reasons.

Oh and the nvidia GO 7900GS on my old Dell also failed twice in it's lifetime, which is a pretty good known problem. So that makes three consecutive families of mobile graphic cards faulty by design. That is pretty bad if you ask me. Never heard of anyone complain about ATI mobile graphic cards.

No to mention the fact that they are more powerful then nvidia both desktop and single card mobile.

Ironically enough, I've heard that the main reason why the first two revs of MacBook Pro ran obscenely hot were due to the ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 GPU in them. Though, I'll grant that NVIDIA and ATI each have their bad apples (no pun intended). Hell, just about everyone in the hardware industry seems to have at least one major screw-up that is poorly representative of the quality of the things that actually do work.

 

[Yebubbleman]

Again I said it is not good, but it get's the job done. I think the whole aluminum case is used as a heatpipe as well. Otherwise I could not explain myself, why my MBP get's so hot all over.

But I use my MPV for video encoding and PC Games often, so it get's hot often and for a long time and it never stopped on me, so they are doing something right...

Yeah, the Aluminum does act as a giant heatsink, though, I'll agree that they still get way hotter than they should. Though, technically you're not supposed to use laptops on your lap. Silly that they're called laptops then.

Though when the damn thing ramps up the fans to full blast because the CPU is warming up on a freakin' Flash banner (as was the case with my Late 2006 white MacBook that Apple is letting me lemon), that's messed up. Though, I've played around with the 13" Pros and thankfully they're not that bad at all.

 

[Yebubbleman]

lol dell cases dont have proper cooling, thats probably why it died, also macbooks and macbookpros dont have proper cooling either, hmm seeing atrend here.

sure apple says the cpu can handle 80C and they have a low fan noise but seriously? can anything AROUND the cpu handle that? electronics hate being bathed in heat all the time, its the 1 thing that causes premature failure faster than anything.

Apple also has their SMC designed to have the fans running at lower speeds on average to increase quietness, which is silly. You can download a program that you can use to manually up the fan speeds to keep the machine much cooler on average. A friend of mine did it with his first rev MacBook Pro (with the ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 that was known for its heat generation) and the damn thing never ever got anywhere near hot to the touch.