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To make a point which you couldn't grasp.

Why are you so hung up this? Is your life so boring and dull that this fact fascinates you so much? Don't have anywhere else to troll?

I am just messing with you :D

Its cool that you have over 300 games on steam.
 
I have been pleasantly surprised with Geforce Now. I even prefer it to Steam In-Home Streaming from my PC.

I don't find the latency a problem and it's pretty enough with the rare stuttering periods though - particularly at high use times of day.

Playing Monster Train on the sofa has been excellent. Assassin's Creed Odyssey via a hardwired connection was pretty decent too.

With the move to Apple Silicon I think GeForce Now and similar will be the primary way to access AAA games on a Mac for the foreseeable future.
 
I have been pleasantly surprised with Geforce Now. I even prefer it to Steam In-Home Streaming from my PC.

I don't find the latency a problem and it's pretty enough with the rare stuttering periods though - particularly at high use times of day.

Playing Monster Train on the sofa has been excellent. Assassin's Creed Odyssey via a hardwired connection was pretty decent too.

With the move to Apple Silicon I think GeForce Now and similar will be the primary way to access AAA games on a Mac for the foreseeable future.

I am really happy with it. My needs are simple. I don't play my FPS on my laptop, just Frontier's 3 games.. really worth the $5 for that convenience.
 
A lot of game studios and publishers seemed to back out at the last minute just prior to launch. Has this been resolved? I absolutely love the idea of GeForce Now, seeing as even my best PC will still be hardware limited and my Mac needs as far as buying an Intel Mac with a discrete GPU are limited enough for me to not be outright considering a 16" MacBook Pro for myself. Plus, assuming they update their app for Apple Silicon, it will basically make AAA gaming doable on Apple Silicon (as right now, that prospect looks pretty bleak).
 
A lot of game studios and publishers seemed to back out at the last minute just prior to launch. Has this been resolved?

No - the instability of the library is the biggest sticking point really. However it's cheap enough I can forgive it. I also have a desktop gaming PC so for me it's an inconvenience. It might rule out someone who is relying on it to guide their AAA game purchases.
 
A lot of game studios and publishers seemed to back out at the last minute just prior to launch.
I'm not sure if studios backed out or nvidia jumped the gun and added the games prior to the studios agreeing. They did annouce/promote a fair amount of AAA titles and then poof one by one they disappeared.
 
I'm not sure if studios backed out or nvidia jumped the gun and added the games prior to the studios agreeing. They did annouce/promote a fair amount of AAA titles and then poof one by one they disappeared.

Afforementioned studios were participants during the beta program, so my guess is that they backed out.

Would love to see this as having been improved. I only have so many discrete GPU equipped computers at my disposal for gaming, and they're only so powerful.
 
Afforementioned studios were participants during the beta program, so my guess is that they backed out.

Nvidia apparently didn't approach publishers, they simply added games to the service. The big publishers got annoyed with this and pulled their games. Nvidia switched approach from 'opt-out' to 'opt-in', but that hasn't gone all that well. I think some publishers will stay away unless they get a cut of the subscriber fees.

I think that it will get better, but Nvidia is not known for being a good corporate citizen, so it will need to build some more bridges.
 
I think some publishers will stay away unless they get a cut of the subscriber fees.

they get their cut when people that don't even own pcs buy their pc games to play on a mac. this kind of thinking thinking makes me angry. it's as backwards as thinking piracy hurts software sales.
 
they get their cut when people that don't even own pcs buy their pc games to play on a mac. this kind of thinking thinking makes me angry. it's as backwards as thinking piracy hurts software sales.
The problem is that Macs have a 10% market share, and of that, you have a fraction of owners that want to game. Smaller still is that gaming population willing to pay for a sub.

I don't think any studio is hitching their cart on Mac users buying gaming subscriptions, AND buying the game, just my opinion.
 
The problem is that Macs have a 10% market share, and of that, you have a fraction of owners that want to game. Smaller still is that gaming population willing to pay for a sub.

I don't think any studio is hitching their cart on Mac users buying gaming subscriptions, AND buying the game, just my opinion.

why would they leave money on the table? is it costing them anything? do they have to rework the game for Geforce Now?

money for sales to mac users > no money for sales to mac users

sounds like they are idiots.
 
why would they leave money on the table?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but how are they leaving money on the table? By not having the game available on Geforce Now, they are forcing people to purchase the game. Which is better getting people to buy the game and thus getting 70% of the sale from steam (or a 100% from direct sales) or a tiny percentage of the 5 dollars a month?

sounds like they are idiots.
The gaming industry makes billions of dollars, I think there are some very intelligent people there.

There are other streaming services, and the economics are the same, but I think at this point these streaming services are a loss leaders. My guess is that they think some sort of economies of scale will produce profits I can see MS and even google pushing these subscriptions, but a company that makes GPUs?
 
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but how are they leaving money on the table? By not having the game available on Geforce Now, they are forcing people to purchase the game. Which is better getting people to buy the game and thus getting 70% of the sale from steam (or a 100% from direct sales) or a tiny percentage of the 5 dollars a month?

Of course you are misunderstanding me. This is why I asked if you even owned a Mac, which you did not answer. You are looking at this from a PC user perspective. Do you not undertand that in order for Mac users to play the games on GeForce, they have to BUY the PC games? Mac users are NOT going to buy PC games unless they can play them. GeForce allows them to play the games, so they BUY the PC game. Buying the PC game increases sales for the developers. Don't worry about understanding me, do you understand math?
 
This is why I asked if you even owned a Mac, which you did not answer
You're new here, so you're probably unaware that I've been a member of MacRumors for over 10 years, having almost 67,000 posts, participated in nearly every forum on the site. Now if you had looked around you would have seen my posts known that I've owned many macs, and I currently own an iMac and MBP.

You are looking at this from a PC user perspective
What is a pc perpsective, and why is that different then a mac?

Do you not undertand that in order for Mac users to play the games on GeForce, they have to BUY the PC games?
Mac users are not required to subscribe to Geoforce Now to play games. First mac users have a small selection of games on steam, secondly it is far easier to install bootcamp and buy games from where you want (steam,epic, etc) and play them without requiring a subscription.

so they BUY the PC game. Buying the PC game increases sales for the developers
Yep, and there are other alternatives to giving nvidia money for no reason
 
What is a pc perpsective, and why is that different then a mac?

PC: "oh look a cool new game. I will buy it, install it, play it"

Mac: "oh look a cool new game. let me see if there is a mac version. no.
or
ok I won't buy the game OR ok what do I need to do to play this game. buy a pc?
or
no I can go through the effort of resizing the partitions on my drive sufficiently to install bootcamp'd windows AND the game
or
oh wait, I can just buy the game and give nVidia enough to buy a Starbucks coffee each month, and install the game and play it."

see the difference?

it is far easier to install bootcamp and buy games from where you want (steam,epic, etc) and play them without requiring a subscription.

no it's not. it's easier to just buy a pc. it's more convenient to pay $5/month
 
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Mac: "oh look a cool new game. let me see if there is a mac version. no.
Yep, that's why many (most?) mac gamers install bootcamp thus invalidating any need to pay for a streaming service after buying the game.

If you're happy with it, more power to you, but I don't I don't see the business model where it requires to you buy the game and then pay them so you can play That's just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Enjoy your games, that's the bottom line its your money and your decision and if you're happy that's all that counts.
 
Get a founders subscription for $4.99/month and as of August 1, Steam games are automatically synced. So buy your most desired Windows steam games, play them on your mac.

I have a macbook pro 2017 and I love Planet Zoo, Planet Coaster, and Jurassic Park Evolution. Today, on a lark I downloaded the GeForce app for mac and synced my library. Playing these games at 1920x1080 with graphics on high. Beautiful.


GFN is good fun, but since the service came out of beta, there have been some games that have been pulled, some, like Doom 2016, that I was in the middle of a playthrough, when it just stopped! Due to developer greed (in my view), as these were games that I had bought already: Borderlands 1, 2, and the pre-sequel, Doom as I said above, wolfenstein, Quake Champions, Rage, Unreal tournament.

the Deus Ex games have been added back, as have the latest Tomb Raider trilogy, so that’s good news.

I share my experience with the service just so readers know that it’s not all blue skies and smooth sailing!
 
not even close to being accurate. There are 10 Assassins Creed games alone. Far Cry 1-5 are there, Tropico 4-6, the Tom Clancy games. That is more than enough for someone who doesn't consider gaming important enough to buy a gaming pc. Planet Zoo, Planet Coaster, and JP Evo are the only games I play on it and it is worth the $5 to have them on my macbook pro. Don't be such a Negative Nancy.


The numbers don’t matter if you don’t own the games. For how long have you been using using GFN?

best to you
 
I predict that Geforce Now will not succeed, unless actual games that people want to play are available. There are other options and largely needing to buy the game and pay Nvidia is a poor business model.


I 10000000% agree with this sentiment. GFN worked best when it was still in beta, as there were no licensing issues to deal with, games just worked, and I really enjoyed every session I sat down for.
 
what are some of these other options for mac users you speak of?

Shadow Cloud is one that operates under the same premise as GFN, but I have no experience with it because it has no free tier, and starts at $10.99:mth
 
I am really happy with it. My needs are simple. I don't play my FPS on my laptop, just Frontier's 3 games.. really worth the $5 for that convenience.

Are you paying for the no-wait times, the 4-hour sessions, or RTX On?

Or all of the above?
 
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