Nvidia GTX 690 problems

edu_guell

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Hello!
I am very sad , today I installed the Nvidia GTX 690 4GB in my MAC PRO 5.1.
I use OSX 10.9.5 (build 13F1712).
the mac homescreen is not seen until entering the desktop.
I look the Sistem Information and see that Mac does not recognize that the graphics card has 4gb, 2gb only indicates.
I go to Nvidia Driver Manager and ECC section provides "ECC not suported"... and says that no updates are available.
I don't know can do to solve these problems ...
please help!
 

ActionableMango

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I think that card is a poor choice for Mac. You won't get boot screens because there's no Mac EFI, and I don't think anyone ever developed an EFI ROM for it so you can't flash it. This is also why it's not reported correctly. Even worse, the GTX 690 is basically two GTX 680 cards in a single card format, but OS X doesn't support SLI so one half of it is wasted. It's probably running as an unrecognized single card GTX 680 variant.

The ECC feature is generally reserved for Nvidia's workstation cards, so "not supported" is expected and normal.
 
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Fl0r!an

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I think each GPU has 2GB, and since only one of them will be used 2GB is correct.

However, it would be interesting to see if the 2nd GK104 GPU is also recognized in the system profiler, so it might be used for CUDA stuff. Using both GPUs in SLI isn't possible in OS X though.
 

edu_guell

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my bad luck!
What I can do? graphics card that would install 4GB or more?
I do not want to waste !
I do not want performance problems or complications for use.
I want to be perfectly updated with each OS .
Thank you!
 

h9826790

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Get a correct 680 4G and flash it by yourself is another choice.

The 690 may never able to work "perfectly" under OSX.
 

orph

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it'll work if you boot in to windows but for osx sounds like a pain, and i gess it's going to eat a lot of power ? (is the power draw safe?)

ps when you have cards in sli or crossfire you dont add both cards ram together you have as much vram as the lowest card ie two cards each with 2GB vram = 2GB vram or a 680 2gbvram card + a 680 4GB vram card = 2GB in sli

What do you want from a graphics card? are you looking at games or work or just to run displays
& why did you want 4gb vram vary few apps/games will use that much
 

orph

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you just want to do adobe web work?
so just Photoshop & Dreamweaver ?
you can pick up a cheep card for that unless you use anything that will tax a gpu (do you?) where you happy with the speed of the 5770 or did you want more?

have a look here http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/frequently-asked-questions-about-nvidia-pc-non-efi-graphics-cards.1440150/

something like a gtx 650 may work fine (and soo cheep) or a gtx680/770 for more speed. (will all those cards work on osx10.9.5? i think they do)

(you can get an ati card if you want instead of an nvidia)

edit lol saw the gtx 690 on http://barefeats.com/gpu680v3.html in the benchmarks so maybe it dose work?

edit re read your post, you can boot in to osx with no problems with the card and it works?
what was your problem with the card, it seems to be working fine
 
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edu_guell

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the gtx 690 works well , the OS loading screen is not visible.
the GTX690 is 2x GTX 680 in SLI , OS X only recognizes one graphics card and says I have 2gb and 4gb really have .
 

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What's your recommendation for me in my case?
Basic 680 or 780 that works with the native OS X drivers.

Stay away from the web driver because right now it's showing bugs in Adobe apps.

Stay away from flashing the EFI on these cards if you are using Boot Camp because the Mac EFI ROMs are not working correctly with latest Nvidia drivers for Windows. Creative apps are working very badly until you restore the original reference ROM.

It looks like Nvidia support is collapsing and they don't have enough employees to continue with Mac development.

If you want to wait a few months we might find out that one of the AMD Polaris GPUs will work when Apple adopts them. Even a cheap low end Polaris will be faster than the GTX680.
 
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edu_guell

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then the best option is :
1- expect polaris
2- buy gtx 680
3- buy gtx 780 ( different from the gtx770 have said before , no?)

I want to change the gpu but never have problems with OS updates.
The same that with original 5770...
 

edu_guell

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in every case I have to flash the graphics card if for PC computer instead of mac?
there any graphics card PC running directly on your Mac?

I see you have installed the GTX770 . it works perfectly? you had to make any changes to the graphics card to make it work in your Mac Pro 5.1 2009?
you had to install a new OS X ?
You can now update drivers and OS X without worrying that stop working ?
Thank you!
 
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GTX 680 and 770 will work without any extra drivers.

You flash the card if you want the boot screen.

But like I said, recent Nvidia web drivers are having bugs if you use Adobe CC, 3D modelling and CAD apps. If you flash the card don't use the web driver.

And on PC/Bootcamp it's even worse with the Mac EFI ROM. In Photoshop you won't be able to use marquee tool without heavy jerking. 3D modelling in Blender is out of the question until you restore the card to the original ROM.
 
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Synchro3

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in every case I have to flash the graphics card if for PC computer instead of mac?
there any graphics card PC running directly on your Mac?

I see you have installed the GTX770 . it works perfectly? you had to make any changes to the graphics card to make it work in your Mac Pro 5.1 2009?
you had to install a new OS X ?
You can now update drivers and OS X without worrying that stop working ?
Thank you!
I've bought a flashed card from MVC. Works perfect, no problems. Works with OS X 10.8.3 and newer. No worrying with updates. If web driver does not work after an update the OS X native driver is automatically enabled. After a few days when new web driver is released you can install and enable it again.

If you want to flash the card yourself you have to buy a GTX 680 4 GB.
 
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Is better option GTX 680 4gb or GTX 770 4gb?
I need the graphic card to working with Adobe CC pack and Web design.
The 770 is a tweaked version of the 680. They are basically the same.

The 680 is easy to find cheap and you can flash it yourself with instructions you can find on this forum (there is ROM for 2GB and also 4GB cards). It will work without flashing anyway.

The 770 is very cheap too but there is no freely available ROM for flashing. The flashed version is very costly. It will work without flashing anyway.

But you will need a boot screen if you ever decide to reinstall the operating system or upgrade to a major new version. You need the boot screen so you can see the OS set up screens.

So in conclusion the 680 is the most cost effective option.
 
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edu_guell

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ok , thank you very much for your answers and clarifications.
I think I'll look for a GTX680 to avoid problems with updates.
I know it's not the best graphics card , but I think that I'll use what I have enough .
here in Spain there is NO GTX680 for sale used and the person selling a graphics card wants a lot of money ...
 

edu_guell

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Hello! a guy tells me to make a change , the guy sends me GTX680 graphics card 2gb and I send the GTX690 4gb . you would do this change? besides money ? thanks