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Nvidia Maxwell released
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If you just mean a move to a similar TDP Maxwell chip that will probably happen sooner or later (if they don't kill the dGPU).
But if you mean a move to something like a x65M (765M, 870M or whatever is coming) I don't see it coming. The macbook would need a bigger PSU as well as better cooling. So either the battery would need to get smaller or we would end up with bigger devices
What I mean is, the current 750M is running with about 45W TDP. The 850M (direct successor) may be running at 35-40W TDP, which makes the 860M actually viable in the current design of the rMBP (It would produce the same TDP as the 750M currently does)
But I'm assuming they'll stick with the 850M and just have lowered power consumption and temperatures
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Lol god help us all if they do it.
Apple will certainly not go with the GPU of higher TDP than current one. So there are three possible variations - the maxwell GPU with twice lower TDP and the same performance as current 750m, the maxwell GPU with less TDP and a higher performance, and the maxwell GPU with the same TDP and two times higher performance. Its up to Apple what to choose. Either way, it's gonna be great improvement.
p.s. Apple still could easily use some higher TDP GPU options for 21.5 iMac as BTO. But they most probably won't, since it's their f**n marketing dpt territory.
p.s. Apple still could easily use some higher TDP GPU options for 21.5 iMac as BTO. But they most probably won't, since it's their f**n marketing dpt territory.
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I think there are only two options. The 850M will be lower TDP, and the 860M will be about the same TDP.
However aside from TDP, the 850M will be a slight improvement (more than the shift from 650M to 750M was though), and the 860M would be a vast improvement. I just hope so dearly that they keep the TDP the same (the 860M might even be 5 less) and use the 860M.
Then again, thinking of it from Apple's perspective, they could finally make the dGPU much quieter and cooler by using the 850M. Also better battery performance while using dGPU (because it'd be vastly more efficient)
I don't think Apple cares that much about graphics card performance in their laptops. In the recent past Apple has shown to favor slimness and battery life much more than graphics card performance. If dedicated GPUs remain in Macbooks, I believe, that they will only be high end options as in the current 15 MBPr.
I just read the 860M should be only 30-40 TDP. The 750M is currently around 45! Should be great power, and even better battery life in the new rMBP this fall
This is beyond wrong.
If we're going to link random poorly documented articles, I might as well share this thread with you guys. I've been following it for a while and this Cloudfire guy is known and very well respected for what he does.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...74-new-details-about-nvidia-s-maxwell-21.html
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Who knows.
Wccftech may not have the best track-record, but who says that a rebrand is out of question for the 800m series?
according to VanillaCracker "that is beyond wrong"
personally I guess they will go for rebrands in the higher (870m, 880m) models and maybe we will see maxwell in the lower end
All apple cares about is performance increase year over year. They don't compete directly with PCs in specs.
There is only one card known as a rebrand atm, but it has been confirmed that certain cards are indeed based on GM107 architectures
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No. The 830, 840, 850, 860M are Maxwell (28nm) and coming out this month (march). The 865 (if it exists), 870, 880 will be released Maxwell on 20nm likely mid-late summer.
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But will the Iris Pro beat the 850-860M? Because right now the Iris Pro matches the 640M. The 850M should be a significant improvement from the 750M, and the 860M would be a crazy improvement (while having the same power consumption as the 750M).
Voila: http://www.techpowerup.com/198554/nvidia-geforce-gtx-860m-detailed.html
860m is the full GM107 (750 ti) silicon.
I guess, GPU clock was wrongly readed by GPU-Z, because 540mhz is too low for sure. I'm expecting to see something around 800MHz after all.
Fingers crossed to see this one in new rMBPs and 21.5 iMacs
860m is the full GM107 (750 ti) silicon.
I guess, GPU clock was wrongly readed by GPU-Z, because 540mhz is too low for sure. I'm expecting to see something around 800MHz after all.
Fingers crossed to see this one in new rMBPs and 21.5 iMacs
I know anything is just speculation, and I'm mostly trying to justify to myself taking the plunge with a current model, but is it possible that any half-cycle spec bump in the summer would avoid any big gpu upgrade? I imagine they'd want to save that for the "bigger" update for broadwell. Historically has apple included anything besides a 0.1ghz bump in their mid-cycle updates?
Yes.
First the general comment: While Apple release schedule seems to follow some cycle, if you look closely you will find something special in most releases... be it the addition of retinas, 13'' retinas, discontinuation of some models, etc. So while we might not have seen a mid (CPU) cycle upgrade with a fully new GPU, this could be just due to Intel and AMD/Nvidia schedules having coincided at that time. Therefore nobody can say that it won't happen this time.
Have also seen price drops, HDD size upgrades and maybe a RAM upgrade mid cycle.
OK more concrete, the late 2011 upgrade was quite substantial, even though it only was a spec bump. The base model got upgraded form 6590M with 256 MB (=total crap) to 6750M with 512 MB (at least decent), together with a .2 GHz bump on the CPU. I think this is the only time where I am aware of a significant GPU improvement mid cycle.
Anyways that is just life with computers (and phones, and cars, etc). Every so many months there is a new model, just enjoy what you have now and don't worry about what could appear next.
What are you talking about? Iris Pro is a lot slower than the 650M for games. The base model was a regression in GPU performance. Apple justified the move by reducing the price by $200.
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It was the 6490M which was a very mediocre card.
The high end got a minor boost as well for 6750M to 6770M.
Sorry to sound like a total noob, but will these ever make it to a 13" rMBP? I've heard talks of how Broadwell 13" rMBPs could be quad core so is a better GPU really that far off?
First of all, noone on this forum knows for sure if there would be any quad-core variant of Broadwell that fits 28W TDP that Apple currently uses for 13' rMBP.
Second, because of TDP and enclosure limitations, we won't see any dGPU in 13" rMBP with 99.9% possibility, regardless of the number of cores 13-incher will get.