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NVIDIA trying to win back Macs?? Is it possible?

This is credible?

  • Oh yeah -mr. kool aid's voice-

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  • MAYYYYBEEEEE.....iffy.

    Votes: 13 35.1%

  • Naw....delusional.

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pat500000

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http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/09/23/nvidia-corporation-could-win-back-the-apple-inc-ma.aspx

I was looking through yahoo.com and discovered this. I'm not sure what to say about this. How credible is this website? I think I have seen this type of articles before.

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Dedicated GPUs could be nice, but it really only looks like the software/Metal side of things based on that.
 
Apple ships a lot of Macs with Nvidia GPUs and Metal support. Why would this be a surprise?
 
goMac said:
Apple ships a lot of Macs with Nvidia GPUs and Metal support. Why would this be a surprise?
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Eh...I believe Apple's entire lineup uses AMD. Last time they made a Mac with NVIDIA options was in 2012.
 
This same job gets readvertised every few months for more than a year. It means whoever they hire gets bored and quits. World of Worldcraft players got a Metal update but are complaining about GeForce performance. Nvidia can barely fix OpenCL bugs. It's time to be more realistic. You got more chance of PowerVR chips coming to the Mac than Nvidia.
 
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no it wasnt 2014 mbps had a nvidia gtx 750ti and the first generation imac 5kk had a 780m in it so 2014 would of been the last year for an nvidia card in a mac. not too long ago id love a mbp with a 1060 and the mac pro to have duel titan xps
 
JesterJJZ said:
Eh...I believe Apple's entire lineup uses AMD. Last time they made a Mac with NVIDIA options was in 2012.
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My MacBook Pro is Nvidia and has Metal. Someone has to maintain the drivers. Lots of iMacs and MacBook Pros are Nvidia and support Metal.
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
This same job gets readvertised every few months for more than a year. It means whoever they hire gets bored and quits. World of Worldcraft players got a Metal update but are complaining about GeForce performance. Nvidia can barely fix OpenCL bugs. It's time to be more realistic. You got more chance of PowerVR chips coming to the Mac than Nvidia.
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Remember the time I was hinting that Nvidia's Metal drivers had a lot of issues and a former forum poster was trying to hand wave around it?

Nvidia's drivers have a lot of issues with Metal.
 
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jdasikainen said:
no it wasnt 2014 mbps had a nvidia gtx 750ti and the first generation imac 5kk had a 780m in it so 2014 would of been the last year for an nvidia card in a mac. not too long ago id love a mbp with a 1060 and the mac pro to have duel titan xps
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1st gen 5k iMac come with R9 290x or R9 295x, not 780m.

2014 15" MBP shipped with 750m, not 750Ti.

Anyway, the last Mac shipped with a Nvidia GPU should be 750m, which discontinued in May 2015.
 
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
This same job gets readvertised every few months for more than a year. It means whoever they hire gets bored and quits. World of Worldcraft players got a Metal update but are complaining about GeForce performance. Nvidia can barely fix OpenCL bugs. It's time to be more realistic. You got more chance of PowerVR chips coming to the Mac than Nvidia.
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Is NVIDIA being unrealistic?
 
Similar job listing is on LinkedIn. For more than 12 months. Secondly, Maxwell and Pascal Support in macOS Sierra drivers should tell if there is a chance that Nvidia might be coming back to Macs.

Most likely - it isn't for foreseeable future.
 
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sure would be nice though. id love a txt 1070 in a mAC PRO OLD TOWER .
[doublepost=1474670475][/doublepost]AND OK I WAS WRONG IT WAS THE PREVIOUS 27 INCH IMAC THAT HAD THE 780M. I SURE HOPE WE GET MORE NVIDIA MACS WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO IN MY OPINION.
 
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koyoot said:
Similar job listing is on LinkedIn. For more than 12 months. Secondly, Maxwell and Pascal Support in macOS Sierra drivers should tell if there is a chance that Nvidia might be coming back to Macs.

Most likely - it isn't for foreseeable future.
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As SoyCapitanSoyCapitan hinted, the issue is that the existing drivers have severe issues. It's not just device support. Nvidia not being able to deliver stable drivers has been a long standing issue between them and Apple.

I'm pretty sure Apple is aware that AMD hardware is slower, but if Nvidia can't get them drivers that actually work well, the speed of the hardware isn't really important.

I'd love to see Nvidia drivers that don't suck in either the downloadable drivers or the Apple drivers for my Nvidia based Macs, but I've personally seen a lot of times where something runs great on AMD on the Mac and causes stability or crashes on Nvidia hardware.

If the Nvidia drivers start catching up, you'll see Apple reconsider them again.
 
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It has less to do with driver quality, but more with politics. Infamous Nvidia lawsuit threat against Apple, the will to control the drivers by Nvidia, and the quality of the drivers, themselves.

All of the things added up create picture where Nvidia will not appear in Macs for foreseeable future.

You are right. Currently Nvidia software drivers under macOS are in the similar state that AMD was in Windows for past few years. Nvidia is struggling with setting up working drivers properly, at least for Metal. When software will catch up, eventually, situation will be better.

There is one, very important place where Nvidia can work on their drivers for Metal: eGPUs.
 
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I hope so. Native drivers for my card would be nice to have.

A more cynical interpretation is that Nvidia would like to win Apple back some day, so they're keeping up with the technology so they'll be able to hit the ground running should AMD ever fall out of favor, but that hasn't happened yet.

You'd think Apple's obsession with things being small, light, thin, power efficient... would make Nvidia a very attractive option.
 
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goMac said:
Remember the time I was hinting that Nvidia's Metal drivers had a lot of issues and a former forum poster was trying to hand wave around it?

Nvidia's drivers have a lot of issues with Metal.
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Not sure why everyone is claiming NVIDIA is the only one with Metal driver issues. There are plenty of folks complaining about Intel and AMD as well, for example:

http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748995685

It's almost as if there were no real Metal apps for the first year of release, and once apps like WoW started appearing, they ran into problems. There didn't really appear to be any fixes in the Apple releases until 10.12, which seems to be pretty significantly better in terms of Metal quality across the board (i.e. all vendors). Not sure why Apple chose to defer the release of those fixes.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
And that is the definition of clickbait. WCCFTech runs an article based on an old job posting that gets reposted every few months. Yahoo takes their article and rewords it to look like "original" journalism.
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It was Motleyfool who wrote first, and everyone followed the path, assuming that Fool cannot be wrong.

And we have been discussing the very job offering last year :).
 
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koyoot said:
It was Motleyfool who wrote first, and everyone followed the path, assuming that Fool cannot be wrong.

And we have been discussing the very job offering last year :).
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The Onion will probably repost the Yahoo article and parody quote some of the salesboys on this forum.
 
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
And that is the definition of clickbait. WCCFTech runs an article based on an old job posting that gets reposted every few months. Yahoo takes their article and rewords it to look like "original" journalism.
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Damn yahoo.
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SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
The Onion will probably repost the Yahoo article and parody quote some of the salesboys on this forum.
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So called journalist these days, huh? Lol
 
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cube said:
Let NVIDIA show that their chips perform as they should with OpenCL first.
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You mean, the dead API that has had no attention over the past few years? Apple doesn't care about OpenCL anymore, they're all in on Metal.
 
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