NVIDIA trying to win back Macs?? Is it possible?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by pat500000, Sep 23, 2016.

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This is credible?

  1. Oh yeah -mr. kool aid's voice-

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  2. MAYYYYBEEEEE.....iffy.

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  3. Naw....delusional.

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  1. pat500000 macrumors 604

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  2. Pakaku macrumors 68000

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    Dedicated GPUs could be nice, but it really only looks like the software/Metal side of things based on that.
     
  3. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    It seems that way..to warm up to Apple.
     
  4. goMac macrumors 603

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    Apple ships a lot of Macs with Nvidia GPUs and Metal support. Why would this be a surprise?
     
  5. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    From article, it doesn't seem like that.
     
  6. JesterJJZ macrumors 68020

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    Eh...I believe Apple's entire lineup uses AMD. Last time they made a Mac with NVIDIA options was in 2012.
     
  7. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    This same job gets readvertised every few months for more than a year. It means whoever they hire gets bored and quits. World of Worldcraft players got a Metal update but are complaining about GeForce performance. Nvidia can barely fix OpenCL bugs. It's time to be more realistic. You got more chance of PowerVR chips coming to the Mac than Nvidia.
     
  8. jdasikainen macrumors 6502

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    no it wasnt 2014 mbps had a nvidia gtx 750ti and the first generation imac 5kk had a 780m in it so 2014 would of been the last year for an nvidia card in a mac. not too long ago id love a mbp with a 1060 and the mac pro to have duel titan xps
     
  9. goMac macrumors 603

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    My MacBook Pro is Nvidia and has Metal. Someone has to maintain the drivers. Lots of iMacs and MacBook Pros are Nvidia and support Metal.
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    Remember the time I was hinting that Nvidia's Metal drivers had a lot of issues and a former forum poster was trying to hand wave around it?

    Nvidia's drivers have a lot of issues with Metal.
     
  10. h9826790 macrumors G3

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    1st gen 5k iMac come with R9 290x or R9 295x, not 780m.

    2014 15" MBP shipped with 750m, not 750Ti.

    Anyway, the last Mac shipped with a Nvidia GPU should be 750m, which discontinued in May 2015.
     
  11. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Is NVIDIA being unrealistic?
     
  12. koyoot macrumors 601

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    Similar job listing is on LinkedIn. For more than 12 months. Secondly, Maxwell and Pascal Support in macOS Sierra drivers should tell if there is a chance that Nvidia might be coming back to Macs.

    Most likely - it isn't for foreseeable future.
     
  13. jdasikainen macrumors 6502

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    sure would be nice though. id love a txt 1070 in a mAC PRO OLD TOWER .
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    AND OK I WAS WRONG IT WAS THE PREVIOUS 27 INCH IMAC THAT HAD THE 780M. I SURE HOPE WE GET MORE NVIDIA MACS WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO IN MY OPINION.
     
  14. goMac macrumors 603

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    As SoyCapitanSoyCapitan hinted, the issue is that the existing drivers have severe issues. It's not just device support. Nvidia not being able to deliver stable drivers has been a long standing issue between them and Apple.

    I'm pretty sure Apple is aware that AMD hardware is slower, but if Nvidia can't get them drivers that actually work well, the speed of the hardware isn't really important.

    I'd love to see Nvidia drivers that don't suck in either the downloadable drivers or the Apple drivers for my Nvidia based Macs, but I've personally seen a lot of times where something runs great on AMD on the Mac and causes stability or crashes on Nvidia hardware.

    If the Nvidia drivers start catching up, you'll see Apple reconsider them again.
     
  15. koyoot macrumors 601

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    It has less to do with driver quality, but more with politics. Infamous Nvidia lawsuit threat against Apple, the will to control the drivers by Nvidia, and the quality of the drivers, themselves.

    All of the things added up create picture where Nvidia will not appear in Macs for foreseeable future.

    You are right. Currently Nvidia software drivers under macOS are in the similar state that AMD was in Windows for past few years. Nvidia is struggling with setting up working drivers properly, at least for Metal. When software will catch up, eventually, situation will be better.

    There is one, very important place where Nvidia can work on their drivers for Metal: eGPUs.
     
  16. Demigod Mac macrumors 6502a

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    I hope so. Native drivers for my card would be nice to have.

    A more cynical interpretation is that Nvidia would like to win Apple back some day, so they're keeping up with the technology so they'll be able to hit the ground running should AMD ever fall out of favor, but that hasn't happened yet.

    You'd think Apple's obsession with things being small, light, thin, power efficient... would make Nvidia a very attractive option.
     
  17. Asgorath macrumors 65816

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    Not sure why everyone is claiming NVIDIA is the only one with Metal driver issues. There are plenty of folks complaining about Intel and AMD as well, for example:

    http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748995685

    It's almost as if there were no real Metal apps for the first year of release, and once apps like WoW started appearing, they ran into problems. There didn't really appear to be any fixes in the Apple releases until 10.12, which seems to be pretty significantly better in terms of Metal quality across the board (i.e. all vendors). Not sure why Apple chose to defer the release of those fixes.
     
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    Let NVIDIA show that their chips perform as they should with OpenCL first.
     
  20. koyoot macrumors 601

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    It was Motleyfool who wrote first, and everyone followed the path, assuming that Fool cannot be wrong.

    And we have been discussing the very job offering last year :).
     
  21. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    The Onion will probably repost the Yahoo article and parody quote some of the salesboys on this forum.
     
  22. pat500000 thread starter macrumors 604

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    Damn yahoo.
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    So called journalist these days, huh? Lol
     
  23. JimGoshorn macrumors 6502

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    Journalist? Did someone say Journalist? Where? Where?
     
  24. Asgorath macrumors 65816

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    You mean, the dead API that has had no attention over the past few years? Apple doesn't care about OpenCL anymore, they're all in on Metal.
     

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