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MacVidCards

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Hey, has anyone with one of our Maxwell EFI cards run this update yet?

Amazingly I am looking at 10.10.5 on a Titan-X showing screen, with no Web Driver !!

The EFI is allowing display and I am downloading the Beta that Netkas linked to. Would be a first if true, didn't do the nvdisable thing, just ran the 10.10.5 update, it rebooted a couple times, and here I am.

Curious if this is an anomaly or if our friends at Nvidia have thwarted Apple's attempts to keep cMP from outshining the Minican Pro.
 
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netkas

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That's true.
But only for delta update from 10.10.4 to 10.10.5
 
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flehman

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Hey, has anyone with one of our Maxwell EFI cards run this update yet?

Amazingly I am looking at 10.10.5 on a Titan-X showing screen, with no Web Driver !!

The EFI is allowing display and I am downloading the Beta that Netkas linked to. Would be a first if true, didn't do the nvdisable thing, just ran the 10.10.5 update, it rebooted a couple times, and here I am.

Curious if this is an anomaly or if our friends at Nvidia have thwarted Apple's attempts to keep cMP from outshining the Minican Pro.

Excuse my ignorance - I am not a programmer - but if a Maxwell card with EFI is working with acceleration off the native OS X drivers, would there be new kexts or driver files for the Maxwell cards somewhere in OS X?
 
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Hennesie2000

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Hey, has anyone with one of our Maxwell EFI cards run this update yet?

Amazingly I am looking at 10.10.5 on a Titan-X showing screen, with no Web Driver !!

The EFI is allowing display and I am downloading the Beta that Netkas linked to. Would be a first if true, didn't do the nvdisable thing, just ran the 10.10.5 update, it rebooted a couple times, and here I am.

Curious if this is an anomaly or if our friends at Nvidia have thwarted Apple's attempts to keep cMP from outshining the Minican Pro.

I was able to boot, I think it was 10.10.2 or maybe 10.10.1, with my GTX 970 without using the web drivers. I also booted 10.10.5 without using nv_disable=1 but it was getting stuck after entering my password at the login screen. I was finally able to get to the desktop by turing on Nvidia injection in the Clover boot menu then updated the drivers.
 
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koyoot

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Excuse my ignorance - I am not a programmer - but if a Maxwell card with EFI is working with acceleration off the native OS X drivers, would there be new kexts or driver files for the Maxwell cards somewhere in OS X?
IIRC, MVC and Netkas were working on a solution to this. There are no KEXTs in OS X for Maxwell GPUs but as you can see it displays the screen without the Kext. That is all.
 
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koyoot

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No, all Nvidia GPUs. Looks like there is a bug in the System, or Apple deliberately added option in the EFI for running screen regardlessly of the GPU in the cMP.


Looking at the whole of the Yosemite and how rubbish it is, I would not phase out the option that it is a bug ;).
 
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Fl0r!an

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Hennesie2000 has a hackintosh which is a total different story and doesn't matter here at all. Of course you don't need a EFI card in your hack, it's a PC in the end without any proprietary Apple firmware.
 
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Hennesie2000

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Hennesie2000 has a hackintosh which is a total different story and doesn't matter here at all. Of course you don't need a EFI card in your hack, it's a PC in the end without any proprietary Apple firmware.

But you don't need an efi flashed card to work in a Mac Pro either. In the end it is still just PC hardware with a special efi rom on the board.
 
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Fl0r!an

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A MacPro with an unflashed PC card won't give you ANYTHING without drivers. On a hackintosh you'll have basic video output (like EFI Mac card) due to the bootloader.
 
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ActionableMango

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But you don't need an efi flashed card to work in a Mac Pro either. In the end it is still just PC hardware with a special efi rom on the board.

Yes, but that special EFI in the Mac Pro is nonconforming. The Mac Pro hardware won't initialize a card without a Mac EFI, so video doesn't show up on the screen until the graphics drivers initialize the card.
 
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Hennesie2000

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Yes, but that special EFI in the Mac Pro is nonconforming. The Mac Pro hardware won't initialize a card without a Mac EFI, so video doesn't show up on the screen until the graphics drivers initialize the card.

Ok, so I stand corrected. It's been a while since I have used my Mac Pro.
 
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Fl0r!an

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The point is that the OS X default drivers didn't crash (what they normally do) when updating from 10.10.4 to 10.10.5.
This means the machine will boot up just fine with an Maxwell card inserted, showing either a black screen (PC card in MacPro) or some basic video output (Mac EFI card in MacPro or hackintosh with PC card).
 
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netkas

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The point is that the OS X default drivers didn't crash (what they normally do) when updating from 10.10.4 to 10.10.5.
This means the machine will boot up just fine with an Maxwell card inserted, showing either a black screen (PC card in MacPro) or some basic video output (Mac EFI card in MacPro or hackintosh with PC card).

apple upadted NVDAStartup.kext as usual with update, but one file wasn't updated - INfo.plist, it remained from 10.10.4 web driver, those this happy bug prevents default osx driver to work on 10.10.5 if you had webdriver on 10.10.4 installed.
 
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registudio

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To summarize and avoid any misunderstanding, it means those who have a MVC flashed cards running with 10.0.4 can update to 10.0.5 straight away and after update the nvidia webdriver, right?
 
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