NYT: It's a fixable software problem

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Cougarcat, Jul 15, 2010.

  1. Cougarcat macrumors 604

    Sep 19, 2003
    See here.

    I hope this is true. No messy recalls and we all get our iPhones fixed.
  2. GDVI macrumors regular


    Jul 7, 2010
    I really hope it is this easy to fix. I doubt it though.
  3. bababoey14 macrumors regular

    Jun 23, 2010
    If it was fixable software....THEN WHY HASN'T IT BEEN FIXED ALREADY. BS
  4. aforty macrumors 65816


    Nov 27, 2007
    Brooklyn, NY
    OP, can you quote the article here? I really don't feel like registering...
  5. dallas112678 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 17, 2008
    Yup, you would think that software fix would take priority over the signal detector.
  6. MozMan68 macrumors 68020


    Jun 29, 2010
    Right here...
    Apple Is Not Expected to Recall Troubled iPhone
    Published: July 15, 2010

    SAN FRANCISCO — As Apple prepared to address the mounting controversy surrounding the antenna of the iPhone 4, one thing appeared clear: the company does not plan to recall the popular device.

    A person with direct knowledge of Apple’s plans said it would not announce a recall at a press conference scheduled for Friday at its headquarters in Cupertino, Calif. The person was not authorized to speak for Apple and asked to remain anonymous.

    The iPhone 4’s antenna is built into a steel bracket that surrounds the device. Soon after the phone went on sale, buyers complained that holding it a certain way caused reception problems. On Thursday, Apple denied a report in Bloomberg BusinessWeek that a senior Apple engineer and antenna expert had warned Steven P. Jobs, the chief executive, and other senior managers about problems with the antenna design last year. It did not comment further on the controversy.

    One person with direct knowledge of the phone’s design said Thursday that the iPhone 4 exposed a longstanding weakness in the basic communications software inside Apple’s phones and that the reception problems were not caused by an isolated hardware flaw.

    Instead, the problems emerged in the complex interaction between specialized communications software and the antenna, said the person, who agreed to speak on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter.

    The person said the problems were longstanding but had been exposed by the design of the iPhone 4. All cellphones can be affected by the way a hand grips the phone, but well-designed communications software compensates for a variety of external factors and prevents calls from dropping, the person said.

    Mr. Jobs did not learn about the software problem until after the iPhone 4 shipped last month, the person said.

    The glitch could presumably be fixed with a software update, and it appears to be unrelated to one that affected the display of the phone’s signal strength.

    Two weeks ago, Apple said that while looking into customer complaints about reception, it had discovered that a longstanding software bug was causing the iPhone 4 and its predecessors to display signal strength incorrectly. It promised a fix, which it released Thursday. But Apple continued to say that the iPhone 4 had better wireless performance than any previous iPhone.

    Apple’s headaches mounted on Monday after Consumer Reports called into question the veracity of Apple’s response. The magazine said its testing had led it to conclude that the iPhone 4 suffered from a hardware design flaw. Consumer Reports said it could not recommend the device to its readers until Apple fixed the problem. In a seeming contradiction, Consumer Reports also said that despite the flaw, the iPhone 4 was the best smartphone it had tested.

    Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, wrote an open letter to Mr. Jobs on Thursday demanding that Apple give customers a “permanent fix” to the problem at no cost
  7. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
    I take it you're a developer? :rolleyes:
  8. thatsmyaibo macrumors regular

    Apr 17, 2007
    You don't need to register...

    I still call BS on this. It's a hardware flaw plain and simple. Software might be able to help it but it could never fix it.
  9. Full of Win macrumors 68030

    Full of Win

    Nov 22, 2007
    Ask Apple
    Fix = alter how the bars are shown, so they don't bottom out.

    I'm no fan of lawyers, but this is class action worthy. When apple becomes the butt of jokes like AT&T is, they will wish they spent the 1 billion on a recall.
  10. Cougarcat thread starter macrumors 604

    Sep 19, 2003
    I agree...perhaps they found out really really late, after they posted that iPhone 4 letter about the signal detecting?
  11. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
  12. dallas112678 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 17, 2008
    If that was the case then wouldn't it make sense to have all of your resources going to that fix instead of fixing the least important thing (signal detector) first?

    If they knew this was a software fix then they would have told us that instead of feeding the whole story about a wrong signal strength formula.
  13. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
    Apple has thousands of workers...
  14. Cougarcat thread starter macrumors 604

    Sep 19, 2003
    And if they knew about it then, why didn't they say so in that letter, instead of a half-assed response that made people even angrier? Seems like they discovered this very recently.

    Edit: basically what you just added to your post. :)
  15. ddoolin macrumors regular


    Jul 9, 2010
    Charlotte, NC
    Who cares. Steve Jobs is an idiot if he knew about this wayyyy ahead of time. What a moronic thing to do.
  16. -aggie- macrumors P6


    Jun 19, 2009
    Where bunnies are welcome.
    You only have around 14 hours to argue about all this.;) We’ll know the answers at 1:00 PM EST.
  17. D3lta macrumors 6502a

    Feb 27, 2008
    Cupertino, California
    Read much?

  18. Cougarcat thread starter macrumors 604

    Sep 19, 2003
    Did you read the article? "Mr. Jobs did not learn about the software problem until after the iPhone 4 shipped last month, the person said."

    Edit: beaten.
  19. SpankWare macrumors regular

    Mar 9, 2006
    Class Action for what? If you are dissatisfied with your purchase then return it. You have the option to do that. Just because you want it doesn't mean you can sue because it doesn't work like you want.
  20. NT1440 macrumors G4


    May 18, 2008
    So you didn't read the article either?
  21. -aggie- macrumors P6


    Jun 19, 2009
    Where bunnies are welcome.
    If people are going to start expecting members to actually read on this site, we’re going to have problems. :)

    Most of the news reports today are saying that Apple is going to have people return their phone to get a internal hardware fix and they’ll be without the phone for 6 weeks. I seriously doubt that, as well. We’ll know soon, unless Apple just really blows it tomorrow and tells us nothing.
  22. BlondeBuddhist macrumors 6502a


    Jun 7, 2010
    Wow. I haven't read the whole "go without your phone for 6 weeks" reports. Good luck getting people on that train. Especially those who already sold their 3G or GS (me).

    My internal conspiracist is telling me that the problem was detected and decided to be real enough right before pre-orders started and that is the reason the white phone was stalled. They couldn't not have a phone come out after telling the world it was coming. I still don't understand why a white casing would have any issues a black wouldn't, but I'm no engineer. Thoughts?

    Blonde Buddhist

  23. vincenz macrumors 601


    Oct 20, 2008
    This is probably true, but I don't think they will figure out a software solution anytime soon. If they get all their engineers on it, they could probably have it out by year's end. Pure speculation, but that sounds reasonable.
  24. Lava Lamp Freak macrumors 65816

    Jun 1, 2006
  25. sciwizam macrumors regular

    Jul 10, 2010
    Q: How many hardware engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?
    A: None. "We'll fix it in software."

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