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O2's iPhone Discounts Spur Sales

thanx for ur reply.. very informative..

just one more thing.. would any mobile phone shop be selling iphones in the UK just like CPW or is it just CPW and the o2 stores?
 
BongoBanger said:
Sorry, that's not the case. Sales aren't flat averaged - they peaked and then fell away quite considerably. In addition your figure of 500K is way too high.
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If you read my posting properly I was extrapolating from a CPW employee who said they usually sold 1 or 2 a day, whilst the Oxford Street store said they usually sold 30 a day. I took the low figure and deliberately made no attempt to factor in peaks, merely taking into account the reported (albeit anecdotally) sales figure. So using that I extrapolated to that 500k figure. You can't say it is way too high anymore than I can say it is scientifically accurate, it was purely a mathematical exercise based on the very limited data available to try to estimate a sales figure. Bearing in mind that CPW are the least popular of the 3 retailers for the iPhone it is possible that my figure is way too low. Any information you have to suggest my figure is "way too high" would be most welcome.
 
wolfie37 said:
If you read my posting properly I was extrapolating from a CPW employee who said they usually sold 1 or 2 a day, whilst the Oxford Street store said they usually sold 30 a day. I took the low figure and deliberately made no attempt to factor in peaks, merely taking into account the reported (albeit anecdotally) sales figure. So using that I extrapolated to that 500k figure. You can't say it is way too high anymore than I can say it is scientifically accurate, it was purely a mathematical exercise based on the very limited data available to try to estimate a sales figure. Bearing in mind that CPW are the least popular of the 3 retailers for the iPhone it is possible that my figure is way too low. Any information you have to suggest my figure is "way too high" would be most welcome.
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I did read your post which is why I corrected you. Your assumption is based on anecdotal estimates and that sales will remain flat throughout the year giving a figure of 500K UK sales to date with potential volume of 1.1 million.

If you look at O2's sales figures - well, what Apple allow them to say, and the actual Apple results for Q2 it's not hard to draw the conclusion that 500K to end of March is far too high. The figure is more likely 350K.
 
BongoBanger said:
I did read your post which is why I corrected you. Your assumption is based on anecdotal estimates and that sales will remain flat throughout the year giving a figure of 500K UK sales to date with potential volume of 1.1 million.

If you look at O2's sales figures - well, what Apple allow them to say, and the actual Apple results for Q2 it's not hard to draw the conclusion that 500K to end of March is far too high. The figure is more likely 350K.
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Again I didn't assume sales would remain flat, as I said originally taking the low figure (ie not taking into account that sales go up at certain peak times) I speculated on a figure based on that anecdotal statement, which is as much as we have to go on currently. From that I extrapolated a figure, I was clear throughout what I was basing it on. It was a bit of speculation using the very small piece of information we have, a best guess if you like. I didn't give it any more scientific basis. You're figure of 350k is based on??? Your guess?? Your hope???? O2's figures suggested 100k by mid January which I included in my best guess.

Of course with Apple's figures released since then showing 1.7m sales in Q2 we can then make different guesses on sales. However Q2 is from January so doesn't include the launch or Christmas sales in UK.

So tell me how you have come up with your 350k figure?
 
02's figures of 190K sold by end January coupled with a similar attrition rate used for Orange France.

It's not difficult.
 
8 gb edge i-phone special price now or wait for 3g model?

Have to admit guys i'm not ace on this one.
I'm out of contract and intend moving to o2 regardless of the i-phone,however i would like to have one. Do i get the £169.00 deal or wait for the 3 g {i'm not sure how much advantage the 3 g will have for me over the Edge model} if anyone can enlighten me and convince me it would be worth the wait ,i would be very grateful for any help,Cheers!
 
I would get the £169 version. I don't find the speed of EDGE too much of a hindrance, and the features promised by the forthcoming rash of applications using the SDK will be largely applicable to both models of phone, I imagine. I got the phone the day it came out at £269, and I could not be happier with it.
 
jetsetter said:
Have to admit guys i'm not ace on this one.
I'm out of contract and intend moving to o2 regardless of the i-phone,however i would like to have one. Do i get the £169.00 deal or wait for the 3 g {i'm not sure how much advantage the 3 g will have for me over the Edge model} if anyone can enlighten me and convince me it would be worth the wait ,i would be very grateful for any help,Cheers!
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Basically I think you should try using the iPhone with the edge network in an O2 store to see what you make of the speed... I personally don't find it too bad. With respect to 3G, no doubt that it will be quicker but it also depends on how good the 3G coverage is where you live.
I'm guessing the 3G iPhone won't offer anything radically different from the current generation and they will definitely both run the iPhone 2.0 firmware.

So really it's up to you, £169 is a good deal..... but remember that you are going to be tied to this phone for around 18 months and will you still enjoy it when a newer version comes out?
 
skunk said:
I would get the £169 version. I don't find the speed of EDGE too much of a hindrance, and the features promised by the forthcoming rash of applications using the SDK will be largely applicable to both models of phone, I imagine. I got the phone the day it came out at £269, and I could not be happier with it.
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Thanks to Skunk and Beast,for the much appreciated replies.
 
jetsetter said:
Have to admit guys i'm not ace on this one.
I'm out of contract and intend moving to o2 regardless of the i-phone,however i would like to have one. Do i get the £169.00 deal or wait for the 3 g {i'm not sure how much advantage the 3 g will have for me over the Edge model} if anyone can enlighten me and convince me it would be worth the wait ,i would be very grateful for any help,Cheers!
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Wait. EDGE is rubbish in a lot of areas.
 
BongoBanger said:
Wait. EDGE is rubbish in a lot of areas.
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I agree. It should only be a few months and the speed difference will be huge. Granted, the phone will cost more, but not more than the original launch price.

Wait. Don't listen to people who tell you it's fine for them. Use it in the store and then imagine it 3-20x faster—20x if it's a strong HSDPA network. Real world, you're probably looking at 5x faster. Some places are up to 7.2Mbps vs. EDGE at like 384kbps if you're lucky. Plus, who knows what else they might add. And battery life may even be better.
 
wolfie, I did include them and I'm a bit exasperated because you seem to be asking the same question over and over again.

Read up on the numbers, it should be apparent that UK iPhone sales have been relatively weak after the launch period. Based on this I estimate total Uk sales of about 350K to end March with an end of year total of, say, 650K unless a new model is launched.
 
Delta-NC said:
G3 is like broadband
EDGE is like dial-up
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Where are all these superfast 3G connections?? I've played around with 3G phones over the past couple of years and I just don't see it. It is very ropey indoors, latency is poor and just isn't reliable or fast. When I first got my iPhone I did a side by side test in my house with a friends 3G phone, my iPhone on EDGE pulled down the BBC homepage faster than his 3G phone. When I switched onto WiFi it was an absolute joke comparing 3G with it.

3G is not like broadband, WiFi is broadband. 3G is an overrated technology which has failed to takeover on the way it was predicted.
 
wolfie37 said:
Where are all these superfast 3G connections?? I've played around with 3G phones over the past couple of years and I just don't see it. It is very ropey indoors, latency is poor and just isn't reliable or fast. When I first got my iPhone I did a side by side test in my house with a friends 3G phone, my iPhone on EDGE pulled down the BBC homepage faster than his 3G phone. When I switched onto WiFi it was an absolute joke comparing 3G with it.

3G is not like broadband, WiFi is broadband. 3G is an overrated technology which has failed to takeover on the way it was predicted.
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Remember that Mobile Safari has great rendering speeds, so with 3G it will be faster to load the page than another 3G phone with an awful browser.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

its not that slow. I use it every day. Macroumors mobile works superb on edge. I'm posting this right now!!!!!
 
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