So. So I have been hanging out on MR for long enough to get acclimatised (maybe) to who's who and what is going on here (hmmm - maybe not). I try to read the majority of stuff that gets posted, out of interest and to help where I can. And contribute to the general mayhem if it is called for. Except. Except that I only occasionally dip my toes into the Mac Programming forums. Because every time I look at what is happening in there, it all seems such high-octane and serious stuff that I get tense and rush out to the relative safety of Mac Basics or Community. i have noticed in the Programming forums a load of members, the overwhelming majority whose names I never see in the more 'general' forums. And I am left wondering if these people are the real MR elite - scorning the rough-and-tumble of those places where their talents would be wasted and concentrating, instead, on doing very very clever things. While we (and I suppose me) are pondering the best way to run fsck or whatever, these guys are coding apps and I do not know what that, for all I know, will drive a golf cart to the moon. Is it just me that sees it like this or is there a general recognition of them and us? If the latter, maybe we could organise an e-party where we could all meet up in some cyber-spot and all get introduced.