Oddly, I'm finding somethings to be much faster under Win 7 than SL

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  1. dkeninitz macrumors regular

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    I've been running Win 7 on my Mac Pro for six or seven months; started with the Beta, then the RC, and now have the RTM. I've got 10gb of RAM, and a separate dedicated internal drive for the Win 7 installation. I've only allocated 2gb of the RAM to Windows, and 1 processor core. Still, it's snappier than SL on some things, especially web browsing. I have no idea why, but Firefox under Win 7 seems to open most pages way faster than either Safari or Firefox under SL.

    It also seems to handle processing of large Excel files faster (although I realize that's likely due to the different versions of Office I'm using: Office 2007 for Windows, Office 2008 for Mac).

    At this rate I'll be slowly converting my Mac Pro to a Windows machine. :)
     
  2. QuarterSwede macrumors G3

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    7 is definitely the first good version of Windows in my opinion. It still has a few very large flaws. 1) Registery and 2) DLL's. Both make Windows HELL to use eventually.
     
  3. irishgrizzly macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, I've only had windows 7 for about 6 hours now, but I'm finding the ff is quicker on the windows side. Then again on the mac side, Safari is much quicker for me then ff, so I'm thinking it's the fault of poor ff coding rather then bad SL performance.

    – edit –

    Good news for the mac camp after these tests by CNET;

    [​IMG]
     
  4. njean777 macrumors 6502

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    you should def. not use fire fox. Use chrome much better and faster. Its made by google so its not a crappy browser.
     
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  6. Bengt77 macrumors 68000

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    If that's what's holding you back, definitely keep an eye out for these sites.
     
  7. Infrared macrumors 68000

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    Do you know, is there a double POST (Power On Self Test)
    when booting in a Boot Camp scenario?

    There's an initial one before the OS chooser screen is shown
    (if you hold down the option key). But there may be a second
    one in the emulated BIOS.

    If there is a double-POST, it makes boot time comparisons
    difficult.
     
  8. Andrmgic macrumors 6502a

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    cold boot on my PC (power button to desktop + online) takes about 40.1 seconds.

    from the windows logo, about 23 seconds.

    gotta love that SSD :)
     
  9. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    thats a great question. i would assume that apple has removed the need for the 2nd POST test (they are magical in their ways) - if it were activated then we would see the feedback, would we not?
     
  10. throttlemeister macrumors 6502a

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    1) Windows ignores invalid entries, so the worst that can happen with a huge and polluted registry is boot increases slightly.
    2) DLL versions are very much under control with Windows 7. Programs cannot overwrite system DLL's with different versions, and each program uses its own DLL, or the system DLL if none is included by the installer.

    And if you think DLL-hell used to be painful, try doing the same kind of crap on a unix system with dozens of different versions of libs in different paths or overwriting existing ones. Whichever is picked depends either on hardcoded paths, or the system library path, and both can create absolute hell. And yes, OS X is also susceptible to this. And contrary to Windows, there is no mechanism avoid it, although unix does allow different versions to be present in the same directory (version # in the file name, but most programs look for the file with no version in it, which is typically a symlink to one of the versions. And that could be the wrong one).

    So, really if that's your only gripes about W7, there really isn't anything to complain about anymore. :)
     
  11. pestbest macrumors newbie

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    I would have to say that test is hugely flawed for many reasons very clear. Also, Apple codes it's software for Windows poorly but I guess this test may still be partially right. I would say I feel Windows 7 = Snow Leopard at the moment and both run equally.

    Anyway, it's fine if you use Windows too much. Just use the OS you want. I bought a macbook thinking it runs Windows and when I saw OS X, I was shocked. And that made me read out tech stuff and become a techie and now, I'm used to both Windows and OS X. Point is: Things happen for a reason willingly or unwillingly, but just do what is best for yourself and cope with it.
     
  12. Infrared macrumors 68000

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    Possibly. I wouldn't like to guess. I have noticed a delay of a few
    seconds between choosing the Windows boot option and the first
    audible disk activity. What is happening during that time I do not
    know. But it cannot be running the Windows bootloader because
    that has to be read off the disk first.
     
  13. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    Just FYI, the C-net "tests" were run on a single machine, once. Heck, they didn't even use the save versions of the software!
     
  14. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    maybe the delay is the BIOS being emulated? if so then i guess that a POST would indeed be run. it would be wise to run the POST test again anyway because something mightnt be able to run under bootcamp that is running under the regular computer.
     

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