Offical 'I'm sticking with OSX and not jumping on the Windows bandwagon' thread

[Laser47]

I wanted a mac because it didint run windows, Windows does not deserve to run on apple hardware, heck it doesn't even deserve to have an apple sticker on the PC tower.
The thing that gets to me the most is the fact that there will be people who buy macs, install windows on it, then find a way to remove the Mac OS from it.
Im all for running windows within a virtualizer, but natively.... Ugh.
Gone are the days when you can look at a computer and say "Hey you have a mac" just to look at the screen and see it running windows.
Apple seems more interested in hardware sales than marketshare of OSX, but its a company and companies have to make money.
Come to think of it, I guess Macs that run Windows arent really macs are they? Maybe when(if) apple charges money for Boot Camp they should include a little black sticker to cover up the "Mac" part of the computer name, that way the mac name wont be disgraced, instead of MacBook Pro, it will be ***Book Pro.

 

[mad jew]

Well, BootCamp has allowed me to get rid of my Power Mac and PC and purchase an Intel-based iMac. I now can run Photoshop (until CS3) in Windows at native speed.

I don't use Photoshop so I don't know whether the app's licence is transferrable, but wouldn't that be really expensive, having multiple copies of essentially the same app?

 

[Blong]

PPC PowerMac arrived last thursday ...

Brand spanking shiny new Powermac arrived last thursday. Before I parted with my money, I thought a lot about it and asked around for advice. It was interesting how divided the community was/is about buying PPC now or waiting for Intel.

I decided that I would have a fantastic machine now (i'd been umming and ahhing about switching for over a year now and my wife was totally sick and tired of it) rather than wait until the end of the year to get an Intel machine and 1st generation at that. Also no photoshop yet for intel machines.

So Bootcamp is announced - ruffled my feathers quite a bit - I use AutoCad and would love o use it on my Mac. HOWEVER - I would love to be able to run it while I have the Mac OS up and running as well.

After a few minutes of thought, I realised that booting up in windows will not be such a great thing after all. Having a Mac, wouldn't you want access to the Mac OS while working in your windows program? Like - whatever - iTunes, Mail, etc not saying that there aren't available for windows, but then would you have to have multiple copies on different partitions? Correct me if i'm wrong.

It just seems that it will not be as cool as people think. Reboot, do some work, restart, do something else for a while, realise you had forgotten something in the other one, restart, etc.

 

[dornoforpyros]

You have an amazing point. I've often responded to the people here who are the total apple fanboys and all they do is bash windows without really having any real cause. Then there are the people who use windows and then use a mac and suddenly windows sucks. The truth is, windows in my opinion does not "suck" it just doesn't do what the Mac OS does. But I don't want to run windows on my mac and I certainly don't want to discuss it until I am blue in the face.

yup! I think my current sig sums things up nicely.

 

[After G]

I can run everything now
Windows, Linux, Mac ... Solidworks, here I come!

But I'll stick with OS X for my day-to-day. Even after dual-booting, I found that there wasn't much in the way of entertaining things that I could do in Windows that I couldn't do in OS X. Games are only fun for so long.

 

[alienex]

I just want to agree. I am a loving mac user but the more I get into it the more smug people I find. I think we need to be alittle more humble and respectful to windows users and mac haters. Ive always found that by being humble and respectful to them they in turn show me the same and give mac a chance.

 

[ray_uk]

Good be good, but good go bad?

The only recent thing that got me intrested is the new Parallels application allowing non hardware emulation running of windows from within OS X. Ive been a windows user since the days of 3.1 and having switched to a Mac 9 months ago and wanting to now stick to the OS X experience this will be very handy when occassional need pops up to run some windows only application.

Admitedly I miss pc gaming but then again I might re-evaluate the entire situation when the Intel PowerMac comes out, Im thinking that a dual core conroe @2.66ghz or above and either a 7900gtx or X1900XTX or higher will make a very decent workstation and gaming rig.

Hmm, can you say the best of both worlds, but in all honesty this entire situation has me like a lot of other people worried about where this will take OS X third party software support now that they'll be able to say that Mac users can run windows so no need to code for two OS's anymore.

 

[DerChef]

I will be a PPC user for quite a while into the future and also a PC owner so this thread does not really apply to me.

BUT

I am curious of a scenario would/could MS produce their own version of a Boot Strap like program and would it be legal to bundle with a full version of Windows

 

[Applespider]

I am curious of a scenario would/could MS produce their own version of a Boot Strap like program and would it be legal to bundle with a full version of Windows

No... not until Apple license OS X for use on non-Apple hardware. At the moment, the OS X license says it can only be installed on Apple hardware legally. MS on the other hand says that the software with authentication code is your license to install it on anything you can get it to run on.

 

[DerChef]

No... not until Apple license OS X for use on non-Apple hardware. At the moment, the OS X license says it can only be installed on Apple hardware legally. MS on the other hand says that the software with authentication code is your license to install it on anything you can get it to run on.

Sorry I dont quite follow I dont mean running OS X on a PC (that is a seperate issue). I mean could Apple try to stop MS from doing a go it alone making a version of windows for Intel Macs, in terms of infringing patents and the like

 

[mduser63]

I don't understand why everyone is so very happy to install Windows on their Macs. I don't have an Intel Mac yet, but when I do, I don't plan to use Boot Camp on it. I will likely install Parallels Workstation (or VMWare, or VPC or whatever is available by then) just like I have VPC on my PowerBook now. That way I can check websites I'm designing in IE6 for Windows.

 

[7on]

Sorry I dont quite follow I dont mean running OS X on a PC (that is a seperate issue). I mean could Apple try to stop MS from doing a go it alone making a version of windows for Intel Macs, in terms of infringing patents and the like

You should be able to do that now with an OEM copy - just format the entire disk from the Windows installer prompt.

I'm getting a MacBook when it is released. Being able to run Windows sent me over the edge. I have quite a few old games I would like to run as well. Plus my tibook is getting a little long in the face.

 

[Koodauw]

I tired out the Parallels program just for kicks, got Windows to boot inside OS X and everything. After having to tell it to find the network twice, then having to restart for it to magically decide to work, I remember why I like OS X so much. I just hope I deleted everything I needed to.

 

[Regular-John]

Like stated before, I moved to a mac so I didn't have to use that god-awful excuse of an operating system.

Good move for Apple though.

 

[Kingsly]

Having XPee (or Winblows, whatever floats your boat) on my MBP I can honestly say: I feel dirty.
That is, until I fire up Battlefield 2.

 

[iMeowbot]

Sorry I dont quite follow I dont mean running OS X on a PC (that is a seperate issue). I mean could Apple try to stop MS from doing a go it alone making a version of windows for Intel Macs, in terms of infringing patents and the like

Apple have already supplied the BIOS now, so there really wouldn't be much left for Microsoft to do. Even the Windows device drivers supplied by Apple aren't really hiding any super secret Apple stuff, that's all hardware from other manufacturers.

The only really proprietary pieces that are really left inside Macintels are the DRM keys for OS X. Windows doesn't have any need to touch those, so they don't even matter.

 

[SolidSnake]

Something tells me i'll never know if i'll go back or not.. "Vista"... Leopard with most likely be a whole lot better. I'm not feeling the Vista interface anyway.

 

[zap2]

i'd be shocked if someone bought a Mac, to get only XP. As they would need to install XP, which is annoying, i mean get a Mac for OS X, and PC for Windows. This XP thing is not for people to run only XP, but to run XP and Mac OS X.

 

[yoak]

I´ll stick to OS X on my new iMac. I have thankfully no need for any apps that require Windows.

What about viruses etc, is it your OS or machine that gets infected? will viruses you get when using Windows ruin everything, or just your Windows part?

 

[Paragon]

What about viruses etc, is it your OS or machine that gets infected? will viruses you get when using Windows ruin everything, or just your Windows part?

I suppose that, with installing Windows, you'll have to 'dutifully perform' the antiviral programs every once in a while

 

[Blong]

What about viruses etc, is it your OS or machine that gets infected? will viruses you get when using Windows ruin everything, or just your Windows part?

Just a guess, but are viruses contained within partitions i.e., can't jump between partitions? OK, so you get a virus on your windows partition and it buggers it up - it won't jump over.

Now if a virus on the windows partition could actually affect the whole machine, then wouldn't it be a matter of intelligently using Boot Camp and browsing the internet and using email in the Mac OS, not in the windows environment?

 

[wmmk]

eek
has anyone noticed?
windows is ulgy!
(whats the big fuss aout aero?)
vista is nothing like osx, vist is windows, windows is m$ m$ is ugly, ulgy is bad, etc............

 

[BWhaler]

I must admit I am shocked by my behavior since the Boot Camp announcement.

Considering:

1. I own an Intel-based Mac
2. I own a copy of XP
3. I am a geek and love trying new things out
4. I am not a hard-core Apple guy. I switched in 2003 after thinking about it for a year.

Yet, I haven't tried Boot Camp, and I really have no desire to do so. It doesn't interest me to even play with it.

I guess I am shocked how little the Windows world interests me nowadays. Sure, I don't want my vital data potentially threatened by the Windows world--the Mac partition is still on the same HD, so you never know--but I don't think that it is it.

I really just don't have any interest. I can do everything I want on OS X, and do it in a more secure, friendlier, heck, even more fun, environment.

 

[Marble]

I'm a snob and won't have anything to do with Windows.

 

[calebjohnston]

These kind of threads make me want to start "The Official **** ABOUT WINDOWS BEING TEH SUXOR" thread.

Great, you like macs. So do I. Now shaddap.