They have already announced that change. Office gets updated yearly on both Mac and Windows.
Also not true. You have zero way of knowing what their future plans are, beyond what they have announced and you somehow missed.
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They have already announced that change. Office gets updated yearly on both Mac and Windows.
Also not true. You have zero way of knowing what their future plans are, beyond what they have announced and you somehow missed.
Sure... this was referring to the casual user and NOT using evil google docs. Agree if you need to use office, that's the only way.
Yeah, thanks but no. My Mac is MS free and I'll keep it that way.
Writing with Pages
Spreadsheets with Numbers
Anything they can't handle I go to OpenOffice.
I'll pass.
Writing with Pages
Spreadsheets with Numbers
Anything they can't handle I go to OpenOffice.
I'll pass.
Omnigraffle Pro is awesome and imports/exports to Visio with few issues. I use it almost daily.
And as Microsoft doesn't release a new version every 3 years but more every 5 that might give an advantage? Not sure if you sum up the subscription cost over 5 years? How much does 365 cost/month?
Office has been updated yearly, and sometimes monthly, on both Mac and Windows for a while. Those were security and efficiency and compatibility updates.
They can't possibly substantively update the feature set of Office every year. First, it would cause chaos as no one would know be able to keep up with the UI changes. Second, there is only so much you do to an office suite. No one updates their office suite that often.
When Microsoft announced the "change" that Office gets updated yearly. What they meant is that the "change" was to how they consider updates, and how they charge for updates. Instead of charging only for major revisions, they will now consider the security and efficiency and compatibility updates as new versions and charge for those as well.
Don't fool yourself, if Microsoft could get away with it, they'd do the Adobe model (only rent your software from them, forever) right now. Years ago Microsoft CEO Balmer waxed hopefully about moving to a subscription only model for Windows and their other applications….and I view this as a step down that path. I believe it's the same with Microsoft saying Windows 10 will be the last version released and they hope to making money with "services"…they want desperately to get to subscriptions only (even though they make embarrassing large profits) and this is a cobblestone in that path.
Remember, Adobe had both for a couple of years first too - and once they thought they could cast off the buy only holdouts, that was the end of that. It'll take longer, but Microsoft will get there. JMHO…
100% of percentages quoted on web boards without links to back them up are made up on the spot and should be ignored.
Yes, I have a link.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LiesDamnedLiesAndStatistics
None of these combined hold a candle to Excel on its worst day.
Apple does great devices and operating systems, OK productivity applications.
Microsoft is the standard for office productivity, no one else comes close.
I get it free through my university, it's quite good actually. Still use Ulysses, but good nonetheless
Yeah, they seem to be getting better with things. 2004 though was very good and I remember regretting updating to 2008. The most annoying this about 2008 is the spell check always underlines perfectly fine words, you click on the word, and then the underlining disappears. I've had this issue on multiple macs.
Excel had a lot of missing features in '08. Like there was a merge cells button and menu item, but to I merge as far as I know you have to go into the formatting pallete. Somehow this became the most annoying thing for me.
Very over priced. Office 365 calls home every 5 minutes it seems, to 4-5 or more different servers. I'm blocking that of course, but it doesn't take many days of not connecting to internet before it's disabled completely and not usable.
Seems their business model has turned into greed and exploitation of privacy.
Seems their business model has turned into greed and exploitation of privacy.
I can understand where some would like this, but if you have 5 people like we do in the family it's between 7 and 8 dollars a month (here in mexico) for that option. That's 5 terabytes of storage (unlimited actually), 1 for each person, an hour of international skype each and office 365 on 5 computers, 5 tablets and 5 phones. I would much rather pay this than 1.00 a month for 500 gigs of icloud storage. I'm wondering how many slam this as a bad deal but pay apple for overpriced storage.
I know icloud has benefits such as auto backups and if I had better internet I may go with the 500gb just for backups, but the office deal is a much better deal by leaps and bounds. Just for storage alone.
Schools here are different than in the us. For example the oldest boy is in technico school, the same as 12th grade there, they teach electronics and he has to have excel, solidworks and a lot of other programs that high schoolers can get by without there. Here the school tells them to pirate the apps as the schools do also, but I would rather provide them with a legit version. If not for this 7.00 plus a month I would not be able to.
I know icloud has benefits such as auto backups and if I had better internet I may go with the 500gb just for backups, but the office deal is a much better deal by leaps and bounds. Just for storage alone.
Schools here are different than in the us. For example the oldest boy is in technico school, the same as 12th grade there, they teach electronics and he has to have excel, solidworks and a lot of other programs that high schoolers can get by without there. Here the school tells them to pirate the apps as the schools do also, but I would rather provide them with a legit version. If not for this 7.00 plus a month I would not be able to.
The only thing I could think of, other than some piece of functionality they add that you really want, would be security updates. Previously Microsoft was only offering them on the current version of Office for Mac (2011).
But there is a big question on this in the future since they are going to yearly releases. If you buy 2016 standalone, how long do you get security updates for? If its only for a year or 2 versions (2 years) it would be a huge downgrade in value.
With yearly releases though, not sure how long security updates for 2016 would actually last though. Another perverse incentive to go to the rental model perhaps? We'll find out in 2017.
Subscription based software is not bad, but if you are releasing a new version every 5 years you need to make the price more in line with software updates.
LOL. Are you serious? You must be really ignorant to not explore the world outside of Apple.
I for one am glad that the one-time purchase option has drawn out the smug judgmental types.
Because after all, only someone who is financially foolish would pay $67 a year to have 5 desktop licenses and 5 tablet license. Far more wise and responsible to spend $750 for 5 one-time desktop licenses and have only access to limited-function "free" version on tablets.
As usual with Microsoft a dizzying array of prices and packages...
business
https://products.office.com/en-gb/business/compare-office-365-for-business-plans
$5/£3.10 online version + 50gb email + 1tb storage
$8.25 for the PC and tablet apps, no email + 1 tb storage
$12.50 Both the above
Home
https://products.office.com/en-gb/buy/compare-microsoft-office-products
$6.99 - 1pc
$9.99 - 5pcs - each a different family user.
AGAIN. Microsoft /has announced/ they will be updating yearly from here on out.
Not true.
Also not true.