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jwolf6589

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So it's out for mac. Is it much better than 2016? Does it at least compare to the Windows version? For many many years the Mac version has been just a mirror of the power of the Windows version. Dont believe me? Try using Outlook 2016 for Windows and then try the Mac version. Big difference...
 
Not much difference between 2016 and 2019 in my experience. With O365 being the favorite for MS now, the perpetual licensed versions are getting minimal updates. Compare your O2016 versions (16.20) to O2019 (16.21), from all I have seen, it is a minor dot release with a license requirement. 2019 is basically a reason to charge folks again, something they kind of have to do for their enterprise customers who refuse to go the 365 route but are "entitled" to upgrades.

They will make 2016 obsolete with no updates other that essential security fixes. 2019 will get a few enhancements here and there to keep it reasonably comparable to O365, but I suspect 2019 may be the last perpetual licensed version of Office. The uptake on O365 is gaining momentum and supporting a single code base makes more sense.

For many many years the Mac version has been just a mirror of the power of the Windows version.

For many years, the Mac version was years ahead of the Windows version. Then, MS put most of their energy into the Windows version and Mac versions fell behind. With 2016 and 2019, they are pretty equal, but a few features remain Windows only. Same is mostly true for Win vs Mac on O365. They simply find it too compelling to push the "But it works better with Windows" mantra,

My advice would be to stick with 2016 for a year or two, then get into the O365 stream. O365 costs about the same as buying retail copies every 3 years, so overall it makes a better deal if you also get the latest updates.

They seem to offer Black Friday O365 deals, so watch for those and jump on board when a deal comes along.
 
I finally made the decision to update from Office 2011 to 2019. Functionally, there's not much difference beyond MS insisting on putting that annoying little smiley face in my title bar.

I am having compatibility problems with people running earlier versions of Office, though. Never had much trouble interfacing with 2013 and 2016 when I was running 2011, but we're seeing some weird behaviors sharing files from my 2019 to those older versions.
 
I finally made the decision to update from Office 2011 to 2019. Functionally, there's not much difference beyond MS insisting on putting that annoying little smiley face in my title bar.

I am having compatibility problems with people running earlier versions of Office, though. Never had much trouble interfacing with 2013 and 2016 when I was running 2011, but we're seeing some weird behaviors sharing files from my 2019 to those older versions.
I experienced the same thing. That's why I went back and reinstalled 2011. It is MUCH smaller and much more responsive.
 
O2011 is 32 bit I believe, remember if you are using Mojave, the next version of macOS is going to phase 32 bit out...
Yep. I'm aware... and because of that and my reliance on some other 32-bit apps, I'll be staying on versions of macOS that support 32-bit apps until I no longer need those apps.
 
Is Excel performance any better in 2019? That’s always been the place where Windows ran circles around the Mac, but 2016 was a clear performance step backward versus 2011. Scrolling 50k rows shouldn’t be a brutal operation...
 
Good luck. I purchased Office for Mac 2016 and it worked well for months. Then I upgraded my SSD to an NVMe and now it won't activate. I've spent about 9 hours total on the phone with MS support and I've been given 2 case#'s (first one expired). The elevate me to a Tech. 2 level and I never get any more response. Just countless hours on hold.

This is why I hate, hate, hate, hate MS. You pay for something and once they get your money, they make your life hell if you need support. Their Tech. Level 1 guy told me to just buy it again and get a new license... Are you kidding me....

I hope they all die and burn in hell.... !!!!!!@#$%#$%^#$%^&^$%&*
 
Good luck. I purchased Office for Mac 2016 and it worked well for months. Then I upgraded my SSD to an NVMe and now it won't activate. I've spent about 9 hours total on the phone with MS support and I've been given 2 case#'s (first one expired). The elevate me to a Tech. 2 level and I never get any more response. Just countless hours on hold.

This is why I hate, hate, hate, hate MS. You pay for something and once they get your money, they make your life hell if you need support. Their Tech. Level 1 guy told me to just buy it again and get a new license... Are you kidding me....

I hope they all die and burn in hell.... !!!!!!@#$%#$%^#$%^&^$%&*


At least you admit to their being a place. But no one (not even MS) do you want to go to Hell.
 
So it's out for mac. Is it much better than 2016? Does it at least compare to the Windows version? For many many years the Mac version has been just a mirror of the power of the Windows version. Dont believe me? Try using Outlook 2016 for Windows and then try the Mac version. Big difference...

I have to disagree.

Office 2011: Mac was a LOT better at the very least in the Ribbon vs Windows Office 2010.
Office 2016 also is better feature for feature, workflow for workflow on OSX/macOS (capitalization STILL EEERKS me bad with that Mac OS).

I too like you am very curious how it fares vs windows variant. Moreso ... can we FINALLY create PST's or maybe I think Microsoft is finally killing support for that ... if they ever stop restricting OST files to 50GB recommended.
 
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