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I love A-Rod, he is a classic playground rules player. He wants to win any way he can.

I dunno how I missed that comment before...

I don't really have a problem with what he did yesterday (if what they are saying is true), I think it's rather brilliant.

Didn't they do something like that in Major League?
 
I've always said that the best fans are Yankees and Red Sox fans, and this thread proves it. Aside from a few Braves fans no body else is talking about their teams.

No, just the most tiresome and chronically unaware of anything going on in the game outside of the ALE.

A lot of other teams and topics have been brought up in this thread, they just get shuffled aside by the latest Yankees or Red Sox scores. You guys just don't seem to want to pick up on any subject that doesn't relate directly to these two teams.

Frankly I read and contribute to this thread far less often than I might for that very reason. If you're wondering where the fans of the other teams have gone, consider whether you've shown much interest when they do post.
 
No, just the most tiresome and chronically unaware of anything going on in the game outside of the ALE.

A lot of other teams and topics have been brought up in this thread, they just get shuffled aside by the latest Yankees or Red Sox scores. You guys just don't seem to want to pick up on any subject that doesn't relate directly to these two teams.

Frankly I read and contribute to this thread far less often than I might for that very reason. If you're wondering where the fans of the other teams have gone, consider whether you've shown much interest when they do post.

Honestly, why would I want to talk about another team? I understand there are 28 other teams, but do I care how they did for the day? Not really. I follow some players from other teams, but other than that, nothing else excites me.

I was born in San Diego and grew up in Seattle. Neither the Padres or Mariners excite me. I could talk about them because I have some "connection" to them, but I don't want to talk about things that don't interest me. Do you like to talk about things that don't interest you? Probably not.
 
Here's an attempt to start something less partisan.

Something made me wonder after Josh Hancock's death: how different would the reaction have been if it had been an African-American NBA player instead of a white baseball player? Drunk, speeding, talking on a cellphone with his groupie, with weed and a bong in his car. Wouldn't he be the poster child for what's wrong with the game?

I often think that baseball is held to much higher standards than other sports, especially the recent steroids investigations. But in this case I wonder if it's more a matter of race. If a black athlete had died the same way, wouldn't a lot of people have shrugged it off? And what about the Patriots lineman that recently died after a jetski accident? Has that gotten nearly as much attention as the death of a little-known white pitcher on the Cardinals?
 
No, just the most tiresome and chronically unaware of anything going on in the game outside of the ALE.

Just an FYI..I would avoid making blanket statements about a group of fans or anything for that matter.That would be like me saying that anybody sitting in Dodger Stadium is a sun worshipping,tree hugging,granola munching liberal.

Of course,what was I thinking.The Sox/Yankees rivalry is the demise/downfall of baseball as we know it today :rolleyes: ..The pissing and moaning,whining and snide remarks towards Sox/Yankees fans is getting old.This an MLB thread…It would be nice to see some posts from other fans of other teams (ie Padres,Astros,D’backs,Orioles,Indians etc) on a regular basis.But that doesn’t seem to be happening.The great thing about the internet is the ability to skip over or pass over a post or thread that doesn’t interest somebody.And believe me,there are posts in this thread that I wouldn’t bother printing out and wiping my *** with.So I just skip them..I don’t feel the need to post a reply with a snide comment or remark or keep belaboring a point and pontificating and whining over and over. It’s too bad the Yankees aren’t competitive so their fans would post more.This way we could really torque off the Sox/Yanks haters :rolleyes:
 
Here's an attempt to start something less partisan.

Something made me wonder after Josh Hancock's death: how different would the reaction have been if it had been an African-American NBA player instead of a white baseball player? Drunk, speeding, talking on a cellphone with his groupie, with weed and a bong in his car. Wouldn't he be the poster child for what's wrong with the game?

I often think that baseball is held to much higher standards than other sports, especially the recent steroids investigations. But in this case I wonder if it's more a matter of race. If a black athlete had died the same way, wouldn't a lot of people have shrugged it off? And what about the Patriots lineman that recently died after a jetski accident? Has that gotten nearly as much attention as the death of a little-known white pitcher on the Cardinals?

Absolutely if it was a NBA African American player, David Stern would be up in arms and making new rules left and right to protect "his" NBA. The media would have been reporting it as the lifestyle of said player. For all we know that could be Hancock's lifestyle

As with it being a white male in baseball, I do believe that people just see it as an unfortuante accident, a one time thing that Hancock did, and he got unlucky.
 
Something made me wonder after Josh Hancock's death: how different would the reaction have been if it had been an African-American NBA player instead of a white baseball player? Drunk, speeding, talking on a cellphone with his groupie, with weed and a bong in his car. Wouldn't he be the poster child for what's wrong with the game?

I often think that baseball is held to much higher standards than other sports, especially the recent steroids investigations. But in this case I wonder if it's more a matter of race. If a black athlete had died the same way, wouldn't a lot of people have shrugged it off? And what about the Patriots lineman that recently died after a jetski accident? Has that gotten nearly as much attention as the death of a little-known white pitcher on the Cardinals?
If it either NBA or NFL there would be a huge deal about it. As far as the patriots lineman who died, the issue there was he was a complete unknown. Hancock was better known than the lineman was (is), thus causing a larger stir. Had he been a black player, that would have caused a stir as well, because with baseball I think you tend to know the players and identify them a little easier. Had this been an NBA death, there would have been a HUGE to do about it.
I honestly don't think it has anything to do with race, I think it's mainly revolving around the fact that he was well enough known to merit the shock.
 
If it either NBA or NFL there would be a huge deal about it. As far as the patriots lineman who died, the issue there was he was a complete unknown. Hancock was better known than the lineman was (is), thus causing a larger stir. Had he been a black player, that would have caused a stir as well, because with baseball I think you tend to know the players and identify them a little easier. Had this been an NBA death, there would have been a HUGE to do about it.
I honestly don't think it has anything to do with race, I think it's mainly revolving around the fact that he was well enough known to merit the shock.

You really think either of them was well-known? I mean, I follow baseball pretty closely, but if you had mentioned Hancock's name to me a week before he died, I wouldn't have remembered he played for the Cardinals, or even that he was a major leaguer. He wasn't a star. I'm not sure he was that much more famous outside of St. Louis. Obviously the Cards fans follow all of their players very closely.
 
You really think either of them was well-known? I mean, I follow baseball pretty closely, but if you had mentioned Hancock's name to me a week before he died, I wouldn't have remembered he played for the Cardinals, or even that he was a major leaguer. He wasn't a star. I'm not sure he was that much more famous outside of St. Louis. Obviously the Cards fans follow all of their players very closely.

Hmm... I knew his name and I knew he was a central player, but I didn't know what team he was on.

I guess I assumed since I knew of him, others did as well.

Do you think it's an issue of race?
 
It was more an issue that it was the second pitcher to die within 2 years for the Cards. Plus having a manager arrested for DUI months before added to the media coverage.
 
Rather then sit here and yell at the Yankee fans, why not discuss the Dodgers.:rolleyes:

Zito shut out the Mets last night, where are the Giants fans to discuss that.

I'm up for discussing the NLW. As for Mets fans... I don't think we have any who have popped their heads in at least.
 
Seven game winning streak... yeah I'd say they're hot enough to take it down. Who'd have thought it though? That's like the Blue Jays coming in and winning their division in two years time. I remember when they were looked at as just another easy series win. Going up against the Mets this weekend should show how well they can really play.
 
The D-Backs are the big surprise in the NLW this season. Absolutely the most improved in the division. Not sure if they have enough depth to keep it going, but they're going to make it interesting for sure. We'll know more end of July, when the trading deadline comes and goes. The Dodgers will be dealing, that's certain, and probably also the Padres. Does the Arizona management have a commitment to winning? We'll see.
 
Arizona is only a half a game out, do they have any chance of taking the west.

My feeling is that the D'backs have some decent pitching and no gaping holes on offense. Their lineup is full of good young players, but no one that worries opposing teams. I wonder if they can maintain their current pace relying on that many young guys. And if anything happens to Brandon Webb, they don't have a chance of keeping up.

There's a very real possibility of the NL wild card coming out of the west again. The Central is weak again, so weak that it's not implausible for the Brewers to win it by 10 games. Atlanta is the only East team with real wild card potential right now.
 
Never a good thing when you call out your teammates for not scoring runs,and then a blow a save...Anybody have any thoughts/ideas on who may be traded before the deadline? I'd say Willis,but with the Marlins,you never know..
 
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