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just saying google branded and an htc logo at the top really doesn't make sense,
it should be an htc branded google phone :)
 
The iphone is pretty darn big. Compare it to the ipod touch, I don't hear of many people flexing them. How you could say thinner is bad is just plain stupid. Stop kissing apples behind, we owe them nothing

The iPod Touch is too thin for a phone. It's too uncomfortable to hold in the phone-to-ear position.
 
Does it work with Macs? Most phones don't. I know boot camp. But when you use boot camp you are no longer using a Mac--you are using a PC :eek:
 
Kudos to Google to sell this unlocked in the US. Hopefully Apple will show some balls and also sell the iPhone unlocked (or force AT&T to unlock it), just like what they've been doing in other countries.
 
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Why all the panic over the Google branding on this phone?

Most Android phones are coming out with the "with Google" moniker attached.

Google have already worked with HTC on the G1 (HTC Dream) and with Motorola on the Droid/Milestone and all I see is this is Google working with another manufacturer (HTC again).

Since the early roumors of the Google phone I've seen people here say that this will piss off partners in the Open Handset Alliance but all I've seen is more Android handset announcements and better hardware too.

The future is bright for both Android and the iPhone, its microsoft and the symbian foundation who stand to lose in future.
 
Whoever made the decision and we all know Jobs did to let Eric Schmidt on Apple's Board of Directors has to be one of the worst decisions in recent computing history. It's like letting Ballmer be a BOD :confused:
 
Totally agree

I've read elsewhere that this phone would only come with a data plan and it would use VOIP for all calls. My head exploded when I read that because it _could be_ the killer feature that other phones are missing.

Call quality under VOIP could be dodgy, and I doubt it could be as reliable for basic calls as a regular phone. On the other hand, get an unlimited data plan on a device that could make good use of it, and have free calling via VOIP on top of that....

Agree completely. Paradigm shifter because other groups would start competing for the smart device market that can connect via 3g without a cell plan.

After all if my voip call just isn't working, I simply text them via fring/yahoo/skype while finding a hotspot if it's necessary. If they need to see something, I ustream it over 3g or 802.11. All from a handheld.

At tremendous savings. I know. People use notebooks for this all the time, not the same advantage.
 
If this is an unsubsidized unlocked phone, it will be costly. Further, it will be released at just about the same time as Apple announces its tablet, which will consume all the attention and buzz. Bad timing for Google.
 
I'm not sure how good pure VOIP will be. ATT doesn't get the best reception, and Verizon and Sprint have tons of customers.

I think VOIP is the way of the future, but until coverage is more consistent, I am not sure how successful it will be.
 
It's a pity they have gone for such a similar configuration, including the lower central button. Looking at my iphone though, I'm thinking how tired I am of the design. It's a bit like that old toilet seat laptop that Apple made - at first it seemed innovative and great, then it dated exponentially. I reckon the iphone looks really dated, especially with all of those bits and pieces - thin chrome look metal, shiny plastic, glass. And that awful button. The quality of the hardware is also bad and not like any other Apple product. I'm not quite as tired of the operating system, but I'm approaching it, especially with not much in the way of possible personal configuration.

Yes, I think the Google phone (as awful as it looks) is probably going to be a good thing as it might make Apple sit up and seriously revamp the iPhone.

If Apple are listening, I want it wafer thin, light as sheet of paper, with a full front screen and 30 day battery life. And an SD card slot, digital radio, wireless syncing, wireless charging and FULL FEATURED MMS (you know like last millennium!).

God, I hope the Tablet is not going to be a glorified iPhone!
 
I'm not sure how good pure VOIP will be. ATT doesn't get the best reception, and Verizon and Sprint have tons of customers.

I think VOIP is the way of the future, but until coverage is more consistent, I am not sure how successful it will be.

VOIP is better than AT&T.....sad to say.
 
We're getting close to the point where the phone doesn't matter. They will all be very similar in specs. It will come down to the os,apps, price, carrier,and brand loyalty.
 
+1

Apple's main goal is make the best products they can, for the present and future, and which their employees themselves are happy to use. It's not just for money. They don't really care about competition. It's not like there's been any real iPod competition for instance, yet they kept improving the iPods over the years.

Apple's main goal is make the best products they can, True

for the present and future, and which their employees themselves are happy to use. Partly true, partly speculation

It's not just for money. Fantasy, this is a business. This is a myth made up by Apple acolytes.

They don't really care about competition. Fantasy, again, this is a business, not some benevolent entity like a another poster mentioned earlier.

It's not like there's been any real iPod competition for instance, yet they kept improving the iPods over the years. True, but using a supposition to support a fact is fantasy.
 
I'm glad some good and worthwhile competition is appearing (unlike the Pre or anything WinMo). Just anxious to see what it looks like since it supposedly rivals the iPhone's appearance, form factor. Better competition = better Apple products in the future :D
 
I'm confused. Is the HTC passion with google branding or some new device? I think someone sent macrumors a picture of a phone that is not the subject of this story.

Like many other articles covering this story, this picture is being shown because the Google-phone will have some similarities, like the trackball, and both will be made by HTC. This IS NOT the Google-phone, as pictures of it haven't leaked out...yet. I was just about to write this, but I saw your post :)
 
Apple could become VERY VERY stagnant with the iPhone if it weren't for phones like this that make them say ... hey we can't hang out in the slow lane for the next 12 months and milk the current version like they have a habit of doing with most other hardware they build.

Nothing person, but why do people always say this?

Think about Apple's history and then name one instance where Apple directly reacted to a competitor. They just don't do it. They pick their own path and go. I've never seen an instance of Apple reacting to what their competition were doing. If that were the case, we'd have an Apple netbook, dirt-cheap Macbooks, subscription-based iTunes, a video game console, a touch-screen iMac, a 10-button mouse with 3 scroll wheels and a mini-joystick, cheap Macs next to the $300 Wal-mart PCs, a mid-range Mac tower, a media center edition of OS X, Apple-branded phones for other carriers and OS X would be available to buy for generic PCs. Also, the iPod Classic and the all-in-one iMac wouldn't even exist.

I understand the idea that competition is good for a given market, but Apple has almost consistently stayed out of the fray and gone on their own path (their saving grace being, of course, that nobody can ever foresee where that path is going.) If you think Google's phone is going to spur Apple into doing some wannabe type moves, think again. I never happens.
 
The iPod Touch is too thin for a phone. It's too uncomfortable to hold in the phone-to-ear position.

Hmmm....with thinking like that we would still be walking around with this:
 

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Nothing person, but why do people always say this?

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If you think Google's phone is going to spur Apple into doing some wannabe type moves, think again. I never happens.

Because that's the way the market works. As unfortunate as it may be, that is the reality. If you think Apple does it all on it's own (like LTD seems to believe), you are mistaken. As in any other system, you need feedback. A small group of people seems to believe that Apple's feedback is what the customer wants. This is obviously not the case since there are quite some things that the iPhone could have that would actually make it a 'perfect' phone. There are many things people want that Apple is not doing.

The unfortunate reality is that, in most companies, the customer is not exactly at the top. And for a public giant, it's just impossible, for the simple reason that they cannot please everyone, and they have stockholders and regulators to answer to.

What you, LTD and LagunaSol need to understand, what you guys NEED to get through your head, is that a company releasing a new product is NOT a direct attack against YOU, your beliefs or opinion. What you need to understand is that choice is actually a good thing because the world doesn't revolve around you or the things you like.


touchscreen keyboard

*cries*
 
As someone stated earlier, this allows Apple to sit and create a great iPhone come mid 2010. Also, I agree with another poster who said they are going to come out with a ground breaking technology in the phone world. I believe the next iPhone will be the first to have the multi-core processor and it will only be the beginning of the new features it will hold. I am so anxiously waiting on the new iPhone, i didn't upgrade my 3G to the 3GS, I just hope I dont get disappointed, but I highly doubt that.
 
If they're selling it directly, I wonder if I can not sign up with a carrier and just use it on Wifi with Google Voice which will inevitably be built in. That would be awesome.
 
Game over

So, how can anyone compete with the iPhone, iPod Touch, and tablet all running the same apps. Game over ...
 
Nothing person, but why do people always say this?

Think about Apple's history and then name one instance where Apple directly reacted to a competitor. They just don't do it. They pick their own path and go. I've never seen an instance of Apple reacting to what their competition were doing. If that were the case, we'd have an Apple netbook, dirt-cheap Macbooks, subscription-based iTunes, a video game console, a touch-screen iMac, a 10-button mouse with 3 scroll wheels and a mini-joystick, cheap Macs next to the $300 Wal-mart PCs, a mid-range Mac tower, a media center edition of OS X, Apple-branded phones for other carriers and OS X would be available to buy for generic PCs. Also, the iPod Classic and the all-in-one iMac wouldn't even exist.

I understand the idea that competition is good for a given market, but Apple has almost consistently stayed out of the fray and gone on their own path (their saving grace being, of course, that nobody can ever foresee where that path is going.) If you think Google's phone is going to spur Apple into doing some wannabe type moves, think again. I never happens.

What would be your opinion on handheld gaming?

So, how can anyone compete with the iPhone, iPod Touch, and tablet all running the same apps. Game over ...

Are you saying you want an Apple only world?
 
As someone stated earlier, this allows Apple to sit and create a great iPhone come mid 2010. Also, I agree with another poster who said they are going to come out with a ground breaking technology in the phone world. I believe the next iPhone will be the first to have the multi-core processor and it will only be the beginning of the new features it will hold. I am so anxiously waiting on the new iPhone, i didn't upgrade my 3G to the 3GS, I just hope I dont get disappointed, but I highly doubt that.

Wise move on your part to hold on to your 3G as I did. Next year's version is going to be the game-changer. ARM and Apple have been incredibly close for years and you can bet that they have long had early prototypes of the A9 for PA Semi to play with. The new ARM chips won't be available until Google shows off their phone. This upcoming iPhone will represent the true break from the others and represent a new generation of hardware. Google, at that point, will have a dated processor.
 
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