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Official: The New Apple TV

+1 Ability to rent HD TV shows affordably.
+1 Ability to rent HD Movies affordably.
+1 AirPlay. Immediately watch photos/movies from iPhone camera on TV.
-1 No ability to buy HD Movies. (You've got to be kidding me)
-1 No ability to sync content to AppleTV. (FF and RW SUCK while streaming)
-1 No iMovie features to separate Hollywood content from home content
-1 ABC and FOX only. (You've got to be kidding me)

-2 No Apps
+2 $99 Price Point


I give the AppleTV a combined rating of +1.
"Pathetically interesting, but I'll buy."
 
Buying vs. Renting

What am I missing here? Everyone's complaining about not being able to buy movies on the ATV, but if you really want to buy it, just go to your computer and buy it and stream it to you ATV... :confused:
 
MyTV has no HDMI

Hey my TV has no HDMI port only Component Video and crappy scart. Can I use a HDMI to Component cable to connect an Apple TV to to my Sony TV?

Like this......

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You're kidding Apple...

US = $99
UK = £99

Just swap the currency eh?

Not impressed, when I heard $99, I thought it would be around £80 give or take...

I wanted one, but now not impressed.
 
Stream from TimeCapsule?

UK prices?

Hardware specs?

I have many questions, but the make or break doesn't sit with Apple. It's how bought in the TV networks are...
 
For those complaining about no 1080p, that's fine... but lets be honest... only a very small segment of the population sits close enough, to a big enough TV, even tell the most remote difference between the two. (you have to sit 6' away from a 42" TV to see the difference) Educate yourselves... 1080p only matters to those that've essentially set up huge immersive theater type experiences in their homes.

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It's a fair criticism, but be honest about who it affects. A tiny % of the population.
 
emotion said:
Stream from TimeCapsule?

UK prices?

Hardware specs?

I have many questions, but the make or break doesn't sit with Apple. It's how bought in the TV networks are...
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Store is back up..£99 in UK!!! That's ridiculous! They sell the shuffle for $49, and £39, so why should something more expensive not be given any margin with the exchange rate?!

Also, the USB is a sservice and support
 
I have a laptop, not a desktop. All my media is on an external HD hooked to the router.

I wonder if this thing can stream from that drive through the network or if it needs iTunes to stream the content. I don't want to have the laptop running to stream a movie to my TV, that's what I liked about the old AppleTV.

If it cannot stream from an external drive without another device in the middle, then this thing is, unfortunately, worthless to me.
 
fivepoint said:
For those complaining about no 1080p, that's fine... but lets be honest... only a very small segment of the population sits close enough, to a big enough TV, even tell the most remote difference between the two. Educate yourselves... 1080p only matters to those that've essentially set up huge immersive theater type experiences in their homes.

resolution_chart2.jpg


It's a fair criticism, but be honest about who it affects. A tiny % of the population.
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That's right, but we still have content in 1080p that take's really really long to convert. With 1080p all you would have to do is plug your HD Cam in, change the container to m4v and you'd be done. Not go through a gazillion menues in Handbrake, wait like 10h and hope it doesn't have any errors...
 
No component - oh well...

(my home theater is wired for an older, component only projector, newer projector has a all the inputs, though)

Ordered one anyways...

Now to look for HDMI to Component adapters....
 
fivepoint said:
For those complaining about no 1080p, that's fine... but lets be honest... only a very small segment of the population sits close enough, to a big enough TV, even tell the most remote difference between the two. (you have to sit 6' away from a 42" TV to see the difference) Educate yourselves... 1080p only matters to those that've essentially set up huge immersive theater type experiences in their homes.

resolution_chart2.jpg


It's a fair criticism, but be honest about who it affects. A tiny % of the population.
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I am sick of this chart. I have 55" 1080p and I can see the difference.
 
Tech Specs are up: http://www.apple.com/appletv/specs.html

It appears unlikely that it can do 1080p per these specs. I'm guessing an A4 will make the interface work a lot more efficiently, but I'm massively disappointed that we have to wait another year+ (probably) for a version update that might use 1080p playback chips common in even cheaper devices.

Even the USB port might still be locked down as "service" only.

And you can't pop your jiffy pop on it anymore- "cooler" and smaller.

It's great that it has new brains- hopefully faster, more responsive ones. But I sure wish the graphics would have got that bump. Replacing the old one now looks like it's about Netflix and a maybe a more responsive UI.

Congratulations "720p is good enough", "I can't see the difference", "bandwidth pipes have to expand", "not until there's 1080p content in the iTunes store", "chart" people. Enjoy your 720p or less for another year or two.
 
gkarris said:
No component - oh well...

(my home theater is wired for an older, component only projector, newer projector has a all the inputs, though)

Ordered one anyways...

Now to look for HDMI to Component adapters....
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Probably not gonna work...bought/rented stuff is copyright protected, that only wants digital connections :/
 
will0407 said:
Store is back up..£99 in UK!!! That's ridiculous! They sell the shuffle for $49, and £39, so why should something more expensive not be given any margin with the exchange rate?!

Also, the USB is a sservice and support
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I think the US price is ex tax whilst UK incl VAT- but still should be cheaper than 99 squid!
 
David R said:
I have a laptop, not a desktop. All my media is on an external HD hooked to the router.

I wonder if this thing can stream from that drive through the network or if it needs iTunes to stream the content. I don't want to have the laptop running to stream a movie to my TV, that's what I liked about the old AppleTV.

If it cannot stream from an external drive without another device in the middle, then this thing is, unfortunately, worthless to me.
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+1 It's so much hassle plugging my laptop into the tv, seperate speakers as minidisplay port doesn't do audio and power cable but if i have to keep my laptop on in another room it's a lot of hassle. I wonder if it will be hacked to run plex as that would be amazing.
 
NightStorm said:
Tech specs are up...

A4 processor, can playback up to 720p30, and still only has 10/100 ethernet.
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With the existing AtV, I find I need to sync some of my own HD content so that it will not stutter.

I am wondering if this device will handle my HD content better via stream than the original.

(Are these specs better than the original?)

Also wondering if the Netflix implementation will work with existing Atvs.....
 
I like where this is going; The only thing I would love to see is a spot for Hulu, so I can totally drop my u-Verse; can't give up my Dexter & Californication!
 
Diveflo said:
That's right, but we still have content in 1080p that take's really really long to convert. With 1080p all you would have to do is plug your HD Cam in, change the container to m4v and you'd be done. Not go through a gazillion menues in Handbrake, wait like 10h and hope it doesn't have any errors...
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No, it will still play 1080p content. It will just display it as 720p.
 
Seriously Apple

-No 1080p support
-No mkv, avi support
-No gigabit ethernet
-The USB is for service & support only

:mad:


If the above were fixed I would have bought one....but in this day and age its just sad that the points above aren't supported :(
 
fivepoint said:
For those complaining about no 1080p, that's fine... but lets be honest... only a very small segment of the population sits close enough, to a big enough TV, even tell the most remote difference between the two. (you have to sit 6' away from a 42" TV to see the difference) Educate yourselves... 1080p only matters to those that've essentially set up huge immersive theater type experiences in their homes.

It's a fair criticism, but be honest about who it affects. A tiny % of the population.
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I couldn't agree more. I don't notice the difference between my 720p set I bought years ago and the fancy 1080p sets in the stores unless I'm right in front of the set. At any distance, the difference, if its even discernable, is negligible.

HOwever, I am glad the new ATV will do 30fps. That has been the only downfall I've encountered because almost all concert films or TV captures are at 30fps. Now I will be able to convert them via handbrake with the "same as source" framerate option and they will play.

I reckon most people unhappy with the new ATV probably own the current model and can keep it. I'm ditching it though. I just don't sync because its slow and it costs no time to keep iTunes on my PC open and to stream. There are some minor issues with items taking a long time to start up, but we'll see if that's been resolved.
 
Count me among the disappointed. Granted, I'm an existing :apple:TV user so I was hoping for significant improvements to justify replacing my existing units and I just don't see it. No syncing is a problem for me--my kids unit is all the way across the house from my Time Capsule and wifi signal isn't great so while I can take more time to sync the kids movies for later watching, streaming just doesn't work so well. Also, no more traveling with the :apple:TV fully synced with movies for vacation. Looks like I'll be picking up another first gen :apple:TV as a backup for when the current one fails.

AirPlay just seems like a nice gimmick to me. Why would I be watching a movie on my iPad in my house in the first place when I have access to a television? And if the content is on my iPad, chances are it's also on my mac so I'd just stream to the :apple:TV in the first place.

Nice product for first time general consumers--$99 should attract a few more new customers--but just isn't worth it to replace the existing units.
 
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