4GB RAM stock? The Mac Pro's only come with 1GB.
I will only pull the trigger on the 17" MBP when it has that Easy User Replaceble Hard Drive feature in it. Until then they can rot in hell and I'll make do with my 8 core Mac Pro.Santa Rosa Middle Model MacBook:
2.16Ghz 2nd Generation Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB RAM
120GB Harddrive
Robson Technology
Intel GMA X3000
LED-lit Display
Same Price
Santa Rosa High End 15" and 17" MacBook Pro:
2.4Ghz 2nd Generation Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB of RAM
200GB Harddrive
Robson Technology
ATI Radeon X1700
Easy User Replaceble Hard Drive
Magnetic Latch
LED-lit Display
Same Price
Sell the G4 Cube. Why not just buy a refurbished Mac Mini and use it and when you buy a Santa Rosa Mac you could use your Mac Mini as media center/back-up.
I'm sorry to inject a note of stupidity into this thread, but I have a question about Santa Rosa and the mini. I know that Santa Rosa is intended as for portables, but since the MacBook and minis have shared the same processor in the past--and I sure wish the mini would be updated to C2D already!--does anyone expect the mini to get an immediate Santa Rosa update as well?
Get a MacBook if you are not doing heavy gaming.
Ah, the question is, if I get a MBP, will I be doing heavy gaming?
I think that if I had a X2600 in a MBP, I would start to buy games like Crysis and CNC3. If I bought a MB, I might buy WC3 or something.
The point is I will use watever I get.
Me.
I somewhat doubt that Apple will use the X1700... <snip>
Yes, Mac Mini will get the Santa Rosa platform.
How about ATI Radeon X2800 XT Mac Pro for ultimate gaming.
Too expensive. And it's not portable. And it doesn't use Santa Rosa
Imagine commuting with a Mac Pro and 30" screen, with huge battery packs to run it. It would be amusing to see someone spread out on a 4-seater train seat trying to play Crysis on a Mac Pro.
Much more effective to just buy a MBP.
Of course, I could buy a bottom MB and have AU$3.5G out of 5G to easily buy a 24" iMac, hopefully with a decent GPU, or maybe push it a few grand more to a Mac Pro and LCD screen, or maybe even the Kentsfield Mini Mac Pro that we all want to exist.
But I don't "need" a Mac Pro, however much I would like one, I don't "need" a MBP, I don't even "need" a MB. No-one "needs" anything, really. It's just a balance of productivity and happiness versus cost. I'm just not really sure whether the MBP or the MB is the best balance, and anyway, a MBP will last me longer than a MB, simply because it's more powerful, and therefore will handle applications I throw at it better, for longer.
Thanks for this post; I don't know much about video cards, especially mobile ones, but I've been thinking recently about getting a MBP so it's starting to matter ('specially if I get an external display for it). I have heard often that Apple put a "middle of the road" gpu into the MBP with the X1600; are any of the ones you suggest as possible replacements "high-end", or can we expect them to avoid the high end notebook GPUs because they're focused on thin, light, power-efficient laptops?