Oh boy you didnt just spill a glass of red wine [questions]

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by sillyrabbitt, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. sillyrabbitt macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009
    hi all:

    so yes a little red wine toasted my mba 2011 version. it does boot sometime and for a little bit of time. i already bought a new one on its way to me today [ouch there goes my food money or red wine money for that matter ;) ]

    I have a few questions and if anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated

    1- When I migrate over the time machine backup to the new mba do i turn on fire-vault first? or do i migrate over and then turn on firevault?

    2- what is a MBA worth that on the outside is MINT but the inside has damage?

    3- if it is worth it to sell how can i erase the SSD thats on my mba and can one fully erase everything securely? or is it better to remove the drive and destroy it?

    thank you for helping!
  2. falterego macrumors 6502


    Dec 28, 2008
    Southern California
    Put my opinions in line.

  3. polotska macrumors 6502

    Sep 23, 2007
    Yeah, likely not worth much at this point. You could conceivably get more if you parted it out, but that might not be worth the trouble (especially if you don’t have the tools to dismantle it).
  4. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009

    THANKS as well!
  5. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009
    i got the new mba 11" today and it was almost too easy to move from the busted mba to the new one. seriously it took 15-20 minutes without one hiccup. except the loss of money!
  6. stchman macrumors 6502a

    Jul 16, 2012
    St. Louis, MO
    If your old MBA would barely boot, how did you get all of your data off it?
  7. Tenashus1 macrumors 6502

    Jul 27, 2011
    What wine were you drinking so I know to stay away? :)
  8. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009
    Crazy thing i havent used time machine for 7 months but yesterday morning the mba didnt boot on first try for some reason so i decided after it did boot to do a backup [crazy!] and then that night boom wine spill! so i have all my data on a backup time machine HD.

    cheap a__! $2 buck chuck from trader joes. actually new name $1200 buck chuck!
  9. stchman macrumors 6502a

    Jul 16, 2012
    St. Louis, MO
    You should get a keyboard cover for your new MBA.
  10. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009
    do they make something that works?

    i actually bought a accidental damage warranty instead of apple care this time around. it was 175 from squaretrade. i think its better to have i wish i had it then it would have been replaced.
  11. stchman macrumors 6502a

    Jul 16, 2012
    St. Louis, MO
    Yes, I bought a clear TPU keyboard cover. The cover fits amazingly well right out of the box and does not hinder typing too much. After a few days the cover conforms to the keyboard improving typing.

    I considered AppleCare, but after discovering they didn't cover drops and spills, I found no reason to purchase it.

    If you get a KB cover just make sure to get a TPU cover as the silicon covers are much thicker and feel a lot worse.
  12. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009
    thanks for the information. i will check it out!
  13. FuNGi macrumors 65816


    Feb 26, 2010
    I spilt a beer on my 2010 13" MBA a couple weeks ago and it still works thankfully. I powered it off immediately (force quit), shook the sh#t out of it, and put a blow drier over it for 2 hours. The #9 key took 2 days to be work again but now it works perfectly. I opened it up and checked out the internals too, gave it a few delicate wipes etc.

    Anyway, I checked out the parts supplied from ifixit.com and I'd say your old machine may still be salvageable...but you'd need to know which parts are broken. Logic board? $499-599, Uppercase and keyboard? $299, Magsafe I/O board? $99. Feeling lucky?

  14. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    If had already bought AppleCare on your older computer, you can call Apple and have them refund you the AppleCare on it.
  15. daveishere macrumors 6502a


    Dec 2, 2008
    so you've split wine over your macbook and instantly just bought a new one? You are a lucky boy indeed (or a drunk one ;) haha)
  16. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    I spilled white wine on my 2010 the week before the 2011s came out. Wine is particularly bad, since the sugar and acid can short things out even if you dry it off.

    It would have been $755 to have Apple repair it, but the Apple Genius actually waived the charge! It came back with a brand new battery, keyboard, lower case, and logic board. I sold it (fully disclosing what happened) shortly thereafter to finance the 2011. Since then, I purchased a Rearth keyboard cover that I use on airplanes and when I know I'll be near liquids. I also took out a personal articles policy from my insurance company (it's about $60/year).

    That said, you might consider getting the 2011 fixed. Chances are pretty good you can get more than $755 for it unless it's a base model. Otherwise your best bet may be to take out the SSD and sell it. In any case, if you need to pull data from it and aren't getting it fixed, Other World Computing sells an adapter that converts a MacBook Air SSD into a USB 3.0 flash drive.
  17. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009
    WOW Lucky you that it was ok!

    How do I know which parts are broken? Funny thing is since reading this thread right now i decided to power up the computer and its staying on now for the longest it has since this happened. It seems to be working now!

    I do notice that the battery indicator in the top right has an x in it and the MBA will not turn on unless plugged in.

    Yes I do and forgot thanks! I will call for a prorate refund or sell it with apple care. not sure if applecare is void when you spill wine?

    Yes I had too. Its the wifes cpu she needed it. trust me it hurt to buy a new one so fast but gotta do what i gotta do. This time NO Apple care i bought it off amazon 50 bucks less then apple store no tax and a squaretrade warranty with accidental damage for warranty was 175.

    How the heck did u get them to waive the charge? Can I go to another apple store and ask them to look at it? would they ever waive the charge or no way when they see red wine?

    thanks to all for the help suggestions etc et etc. THANKS!
  18. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    I didn't ask for or expect them to waive the charges. I think I just hit the jackpot with a lucky Genius. He asked me how old it was (4 months at the time) and said he's put it through as a complimentary repair. My guess is that with the rumored changes at the retail stores this is less likely to occur now, and it always was rare. I certainly didn't expect it, but was happy about it.

    That said, if you go to the store and are upfront about what happened, at the very least they will provide a repair estimate. I think it would be $755. If you can get $800 or more on the Marketplace or Craigslist, it would be worth it.
  19. Blackberryroid macrumors 6502a


    Aug 8, 2012
    Boy, you are filthy stinkin' rich. I can't believe you'd buy a new computer just because a wine spilled on it. Most people would buy a new one after a few months and try to work with other computers.

    Surprisingly, you were even worrying about the wine being wasted. How much was that wine, anyway? $3000?

    Anyways, the best way to calculate how much that laptop of yours is worth is follow this formula:

    (Average price of working MBA 2011 price on eBay) - (Repair quote from Apple Store) = The best selling price.

    You might get a negative. In that case, you might want to keep that for a few decades. It'll be worth a fortune.
  20. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009
    -Thanks all for the info and ideas/potential scenarios!

    -I had to buy a new one! Its was fix it for $800 or or buy a new one for $1050. my wife needed the computer to do work on.

    -the red wine was $2 from trader joes $2 buck chuck cheap cheap wine. I didnt care about that I do care about the $1000 buck but what am i too do!

    ******I did a test last night left it plugged in and WOW its still on this morning. Do you think its not toasted??? It has an X in the battery meter. Maybe just the batter is no good? I dont even know where to bring it to figure it out? Do I ship it back to apple?

  21. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009
    Update the mba is working for days now perfectly except it needs to be plugged in. the battery is not recognized. should i chance a $100 and buy a new battery or you think eventually the computer will crap out?

  22. Spoonz macrumors member

    May 16, 2012
    I'd get it checked out somehow first - you have no idea which component(s) could die any minute. Surely you could sell parts for quite a pretty penny though, like the screen?
  23. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009

    i took it to apple they said they would replace in the insides for 755 + tax basically. the unit is working great except for the battery. i would rather try that or just sell the unit. not sure though what route to take. its sad to see this pristine looking machine knowing the insides might not work. my gut says they will work with a new battery fine but what do i know. if i can only get a 100-200 bucks for it i would rather risk 100 and keep it as a backup cpu.
  24. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    It might not be just the battery. In fact the battery could be fine, but the connection could be what is damaged. That's actually what happened to Molly Wood's MacBook Air after CNet's Torture Test (it would work when plugged in but would shut off immediately when unplugged).

    Maybe go back and insist that Apple (or a third party repair center) attempt to replace the battery only. At that point, if it works, go ahead, and if it doesn't, send it in. If changing the battery works, I'd suggest cleaning the insides thoroughly with an electronic cleaning solution, since the acid and sugar from the wine might well corrode the logic board over time (which is probably why Apple is suggesting the $755 repair).

    For $755 you will essentially get a brand new machine. On mine, they replaced the logic board, lower case, keyboard, and several internal boards (such as the wi-fi controller). All that carried over were the SSD, screen, and top case.
  25. sillyrabbitt thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 28, 2009
    Awesome info that i was looking for! Thanks for the advice and insight. Much appreciated! Do apple retail stores change batteries or is that a mail in type job?

    one other thing what is the exact screw driver i need to open the mba to clean it up? radioshack have them or buy online someplace?


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