Oh God, It's Attack of the Frame Drops All Over Again

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by dallas112678, Sep 19, 2017.

  1. dallas112678 macrumors 6502a

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    Anyone else noticing a lot of frame drops? A good 30-40% of the time I open up e-mail (as just one example), the thing stutters during the entire opening animation... This on a iPhone 7+.
     
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  3. zorinlynx macrumors 603

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    It does get better with time, but there are still new frame drops that weren't there in iOS 10.

    It seems Apple is utterly incapable of updating iOS without introducing these annoying drops.
     
  4. imagineadam macrumors 65816

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    How are you enjoying the new delay to close apps when pressing the home button? I'd go back to 10.3.3 if I was you.
     
  5. now i see it macrumors 68040

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    All iPhones on ALL major iOS updates are super busy indexing the new software. Let everything settle down for a day or two and see what happens.
     
  6. TL24 macrumors 6502a

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    Here we go again with the indexing nonsense. It’s not indexing, I’ve been running iOS 11 B1 to GM and it’s gotten better but it is still a valid issue for iOS 11 GM/Final.
     
  7. Fuzzball84 macrumors 6502

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    It's indexing. Just like when you get a new house, iOS will be exploring and remembering where everything is in its new residence.

    Give your iOS device time to settle in. Give it a drink of Horlicks, a nice bed and a good nights sleep.

    Of course this is all rubbish, its apple not yet optimizing iOS fully before the consumer release... well they do have to release a new version every single year and drop support of older 32 bit apps!

    Pft
     
  8. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    There might be other things involved, but “indexing” (or basically various other processes doing something more after an upgrade) isn’t exactly a new or nonsense.
     
  9. TL24 macrumors 6502a

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    Give it up already guys.... it’s not an indexing issue.

    Let me ask you this, have you been running iOS 11 since B1? If not, don’t post lies about indexing being the issue here, iOS 11 IS the issue.
     
  10. Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    It is indexing, but that doesn't necessarily mean the issue will be completely gone when it stops.
     
  11. Hastings101 macrumors 68020

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    It always cracks me up when people say that. If there's any secretive "indexing" it's not going to take days anyway.
     
  12. TL24 macrumors 6502a

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    Oh so you have proof? Please enlighten us with when indexing will be completed for those of us that have been running iOS 11 for weeeeeeeks now.
     
  13. BeeGood macrumors 68000

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    I think you missed the sacarsm.
     
  14. TL24 macrumors 6502a

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    Probably did on this one lol, just tired of folks coming on here saying everything slow is an indexing issue.
     
  15. BeeGood macrumors 68000

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    I hear you, and it’s particularly frustrating when you’re in the beta program. I just started with beta 10, I can’t imagine how folks who have been running it since beta 1 feel.

    The frame drops/lag/stutters are definitely not normal. Hoping it gets fixed within the next few weeks.
     
  16. Feenician macrumors 601

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    It’s not unfair to say.

    I’ve said it before but whatever Apple did back in iOS 7 (or maybe before, but they just hid it better) clearly makes whatever the equivalent of a window manager in iOS hard to handle. Every refactor results in these (small, but still not welcome) visual performance losses. It will get patched up and everything will be smooth for pretty much everyone but, clearly, whatever is behind it needs to get fixed.
     
  17. Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    It's also pretty apparent that things are a bit slower after a new install. Regardless, if you had understood what I wrote, you would understand that I'm agreeing that it's an issue with the OS.
     
  18. TL24 macrumors 6502a

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    Same, hopefully the next betas will focus on fine tuning iOS 11.
     
  19. Feenician macrumors 601

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    They will, they always do, but clearly we shouldn’t get here every year. I am not especially irritated in daily use by this stuff since it’s cosmetic but still, I don’t think it should happen. At least not quite so obviously.
     
  20. dallas112678 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    This is like all of the "the glue needs time to dry" posts trying to explain the yellow tinting problems that seem to happen to every iPhone.

    Lets get real, these processors are much too beefy to have indexing cause random animation frame drops when opening apps.

    This isn't the first time I've updated iOS, I've never seen as much frame drops after an update as I do now.
     
  21. Knowlege Bomb macrumors 603

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    Amen to this. With how much Apple gloats about the efficiency of their processors on their phones there should be none of these little stutters that make everybody lose their minds around here.

    Personally, I couldn’t care less but the forums have been pretty much ruined by the “lag and stutter” junkies.
     
  22. Salvor Hardin macrumors regular

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    Well maybe Apple should hire them because clearly they’ve gotten rid of anyone who prided themselves on iOS being Buttery Smooth™.
     
  23. M5RahuL macrumors 68030

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    I saw that throughout the beta program on 11...all the way to GM .. I’m back on 10.3.3 before they stop signing it.. iOS 11 is crap on my 7+.... surprisingly much better on the new iPad Pro.. hmm..
     
  24. Feenician macrumors 601

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    Most will disappear shortly. There is more than ever goes on in iOS updates now. Where other solutions just upload your photos and wait for the “cat”, “sports game” etc. tags to come back from the cloud, all of that is done on device in iOS. An absolute ton of recognition, right on the phone or tablet. That’s the price of privacy. Someone’s going to call me a fanboy but that’s the reality of how it works.
     
  25. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    In the same vein of it not being the first time, seems like with pretty much any update (in particular any major update) some people encounter some issues of this type while many don't.
     

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