Ok, I've had enough: PAGES s_cks!!!

[Mord]

No, that's what the pseudogrammarians at Microsoft want you to think. It's just one reason why I hate their grammar checking program, their love of the semicolon.

I'm glad everyone is so angry ... I hit a nerve. I bet a lot of you children get horrible grades on your term papers and don't know why. Must be the spelling and grammar Nazis' fault.

hitting a nerve is not always a good thing, most of the time it is not, i get straight A's in all my school work my spelling is excellent when i make a conscious effort in a forum it makes no difference as long as text is clear and concise which it is unless you have a reading problem.

sure if you dislike word's grammar check say so but don't go around calling us all illiterate just because most of us do not have the time to proof read and use precise grammar, as long as the text is well structured and conveys it's point it is fine and you are quite frankly being arrogant if you think your somehow better than us because of it.

all the people in my english class who thought they were better than me because their handwriting was good (I write like a complete spaz) but now they are all getting C's in sociology/psychology/poletics/english/history and are destined for a boring desk job, how you write casually does not make you any better than anyone else, what you write about and in conjunction to how well it is written does in those respects you have added nothing to this thread.

 

[yoda13]

That was well said. For what it is worth, I graduated with honors from my university and I still have issues with grammar and spelling from time to time.

 

[Heb1228]

I don't like autosave, so I'm certainly not unhappy that it wasn't included in Pages.

Is that a quadruple negative? Its gotta be at least a triple! And would Pages catch the bad grammar? Just messing with you IJ!

 

[kretzy]

After reading these posts I don't know any more about the pros and cons of Pages, but I do know this much -- all of you need massive spelling and grammar checking help. The lot of you are just barely literate, I'm embarrassed for you. Unless word processing software gets to the point where it plugs into your brain and translates your thoughts into understandable English, I think you'd be advised to step away from the computer and take some remedial language courses.

Get a life mate. If you think the spelling on this forum is too deplorable for your delicate eyes, then leave. You'll be greatly missed.

As for Pages, I haven't had any problems with it so far. I am trying to use it more than Word, but I really like the notebook layout in word - it's the best for taking notes. I've produced some good looking documents with Pages, which would never have been possible in Word. There is room for improvement, and I'm sure it will improve with each release.

 

[fh2level]

ies dunno bout u's gys bbutt me tiep pearfect gremmer al da dime

 

[kwajaln]

iWork is an $80 package. InDesign is $700, Office 2004 Standard is $400. It might help to adjust expectations accordingly.

Exactly ! ! !

 

[debussy]

No, that's what the pseudogrammarians at Microsoft want you to think. It's just one reason why I hate their grammar checking program, their love of the semicolon.

I'm glad everyone is so angry ... I hit a nerve. I bet a lot of you children get horrible grades on your term papers and don't know why. Must be the spelling and grammar Nazis' fault.

Actually... I'm afraid that the grammarians at Microsoft are 100% correct on this one. There are two separate and complete clauses we are dealing with: "The lot of you are just barely literate," and "I'm embarrassed for you." If one desires to connect complete clauses, one does so with either a semicolon, or a comma plus a conjunctive (such as 'and', 'or', or 'but'). Therefore, there are three possible ways to correctly write the aforementioned:

"The lot of you are just barely literate. I'm embarrassed for you."
"The lot of you are just barely literate; I'm embarrassed for you."
"The lot of you are just barely literate, and I'm embarrassed for you."

Hope this helps someone!

 

[Cromulent]

Actually... I'm afraid that the grammarians at Microsoft are 100% correct on this one. There are two separate and complete clauses we are dealing with: "The lot of you are just barely literate," and "I'm embarrassed for you." If one desires to connect complete clauses, one does so with either a semicolon, or a comma plus a conjunctive (such as 'and', 'or', or 'but'). Therefore, there are three possible ways to correctly write the aforementioned:

"The lot of you are just barely literate. I'm embarrassed for you."
"The lot of you are just barely literate; I'm embarrassed for you."
"The lot of you are just barely literate, and I'm embarrassed for you."

Hope this helps someone!

Nice thread bump. Only two years late .

 

[jeremy.king]

Nice thread bump. Only two years late .

"Nice thread bump; only two years late."
"Nice thread bump, but only two years late."

 

[danielpicasso]

these interactions are scaring me......

I monitor the MacRumors for I am a PC user who is strongly considering a defection from the boredom and limiting interaction of Microsoft and coming back to Apple ( I had a Mac SE 30 in the late 90's). I would run my business with it and would have to rely on Fusion for I need to have access to IE for web based business applications and basic word needs.
Back to the point these basic complaints scare the heck out of me. These are really basic issues. How will Apple crack into the small business non creative market?
hope I did not hijack your discussion.

 

[lamadude]

I don't like autosave, so I'm certainly not unhappy that it wasn't included in Pages. When I open and edit a document, I like to be able to decide whether I'm going to save the changes or save as a new document.

That's not what happens with an autosave feature. You can still decide if you want to save the changes as a new document. If in word for example you have typed a bunch of text that you don't want to keep, you just close the document without saving it. Word remembers what your latest manual save was and will forget about the auto saves. The auto saves are useful when for example the power goes out and your computer shuts down, in that case word is going to give you the option of restarting from the last manual save OR the last auto save.
It really is a useful feature and it doesn't have any downsides.

 

[Cromulent]

"Nice thread bump; only two years late."
"Nice thread bump, but only two years late."

It was intentional...

...honest .

Edit : Bloomin' heck. Did you guys not see my post? This thread is two years old and relates to an old version of Pages.

 

[lamadude]

woops, nope must have missed it. I hate it when that happens

 

[mysterytramp]

Back to the point these basic complaints scare the heck out of me. These are really basic issues. How will Apple crack into the small business non creative market?
hope I did not hijack your discussion.

A couple of things:

-- There ain't a whole lot of Apple love on this board. Here is where we vent. Don't be surprised that people mouth off on ridiculous nonsense.
-- Apple and Microsoft have two different business models. Microsoft wants to rule the world and isn't interested in seeing major software houses pop up threatening the Mighty MSHegemony. Apple just wants to rule half the world and is content with putting out a word processor that fills the niche between TextEdit and MS Word.

Getting back to word processing, OS X has several fine products to choose from. Heck, TextEdit ain't so bad so long as you don't need fancy footnotes or to wrap text around graphics. And if TextEdit does fit the bill, there are easily a dozen TextEdit clones that fill specialized needs (I'm thinking of Journler, Scratchpad, Caboodle, etc.)

If you want more than TextEdit, Pages isn't the only option. Mariner Write is pretty slick. I used to use Nisus from time to time in my OS 9 days.

If you need something full blown, there's always OpenOffice/NeoOffice, which are advancing away from beta quite nicely.

(I'd throw in products like Mellel, Ulysses and others, but I don't know enough about them to speak intelligently)

So if you're in the small business non-creative market, a Mac will do you fine.

mt

Tell debussy I tried to get my semicolons where they belong.

 

[ra noodle]

All these and more are why i refuse to buy iwork 08; Ilife 08 and upgrade to leopard.....Because you know what..At this point in time one can conclude absolutely that were one or two products having a few problems we all could forgive jobs...But this has now become an across the board deliberate hustling and ripoff of all of us...Leopard is ****, iphone, itouch are **** work and life are ****ing jokes and so on down the line and this lies now right at the feet of mr big deal jobs! he's done a total jeckel and hyde on all of us--and whats more when you hear of a wimpering "Oh i'm sorry and i'll reduce or give you a credit on your next purchase" crap...

He knows g##d### well he is hustling and cheating his customer base....When are more of you going to realize this....He damn well knows he's been using cheap crap for quality--the magnet power crap was the start....Oh such a cute trick but what about all the rest of the cables and chords usb and ethernuts etc....No in my opinion its become how far can he hustle us....And then to make up for the lack of a stable quality osx he's given us crap done so so that all these other small time corner companies can make "Programs" some of are forced to buy in order to get the orginal osx working right....

Its all about money and maybe more of us need to look into this paystar clone.....But when he decides to return to giving his base of support the quality product we used to remember back---but is jobs going to wakeup??