OK, this is just sad. Look at the NUC I can make for less $ than the base mini!

Discussion in 'Alternatives to Mac Hardware' started by EightyTwenty, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. EightyTwenty macrumors 6502a

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    - Quad core Intel CPU 1.5 GHz, turbo to 2.3 GHz (a little slower than the mini).
    - 8 GB ram (twice as much as the mini).
    - 256 GB Samsung EVO 3D nand SSD (blows the mini clear out of the water).
    - Video card capable of playing full 4k @ 60hz.
    - Full Windows 10 license (could go $125 cheaper if I pirate Windows).

    Total cost is $513.96

    Compared to $599.99 for the mini with a 5400 spinner, only 4GB of RAM and no 4K.

    The NUC would run circles around the mini in day-to-day performance (opening apps, web browsing, start-up and shutdown, etc., can run a monitor at beautiful 4k resolution @ 60hz, and plays 4K movies without a problem.

    All of this for $90 LESS than the 2014 Mac Mini and over $200 cheaper if I pirate Windows.

    Note: All funds in CDN.
     
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  3. s15119 macrumors 68000

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    It's always been cheaper to build your own than to buy Apple gear. But then you have to run the virus they call windows. Ick.
     
  4. krause734, Sep 15, 2017
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    Windows is really garbage. Mac OS runs better on a 3 year old Mini believe it or not.
    Pop ups, drivers, crashes, freezes, antivirus ugh never again.
     
  5. Altis macrumors 68030

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    I don't know how true this is anymore.

    El Cap/Sierra run very poorly on my 2010 MBP 17" with SSD 8GB RAM. Slow, unresponsive, delays, beachballs at random times... Safari is particularly dismal. Even just little things like the auto-hide dock not popping up, Finder is miserable,

    Windows 7/10/Linux all run absolutely beautifully on it. Haven't had a single hiccup with it so far, even if I very much dislike where Windows is heading in terms of privacy/forced updates.

    It's to the point where I'm starting to use El Capitan less and less and just boot into the others. The battery life is a bit longer on El Cap though so I still use it for some light tasks when battery life is a priority.

    MacOS is secure, Windows is fast, Linux is secure and fast but lacks software. What do you do :p
     
  6. EightyTwenty thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    You think MacOS runs well on the base mini with 4 GB of soldered ram and a 5400 spinner? You couldn't be more wrong. It's a travesty of an experience. I even had the Apple Store tell me "everyone returns it for a refund after using it."

    The Windows 10 NUC would be a night-and-day difference from the stuttering mess that is the base 2014 mini. Way cheaper too. Just a much, much better value. Everything is easily replaceable and the hard drive takes 30 seconds to upgrade.
     
  7. krause734 macrumors 6502a

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    I got a current mid tier Mac Mini on eBay with a SSD for $600 (regularly 900 + tax). Highly recommended. I bet you will regret getting a Windows Machine.
     
  8. tigerinexile macrumors newbie

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    NUC makes sense. It's Intel doing to Apple what Apple did to PCs with the original Minis.

    Apple should update the Mini line. Buying one new now would be stupid.
     
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  10. EightyTwenty thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    You got yourself a great machine. Only problem is that configuration costs well over $1000 in Canada.

    We're in the 4K era now. I'm not dropping $1000 on a computer that can't use a 4K monitor or display 4K content.
     
  11. usarioclave macrumors 65816

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    The problem with the Mini is that historically it was based on a MacBook motherboard, and the current laptop chips aren't that appropriate for desktop use anymore. That means they have to design a board specifically for the Mini.

    They saw the light on the Mac Pro, so maybe they'll do the same for the Mini someday.
     
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    It is, if you want to watch slides.
     
  15. EightyTwenty thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Or a still image :)
     
  16. Cape Dave macrumors 68000

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    "Travesty of an experience." You sir, are a genius! I have been telling people how bad 5400 spinners are for years, and you describe it perfectly in 4 words. Time has moved on from those slow pigs. Wait, that is rude to pigs :)
     
  17. Strelok macrumors 6502a

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    You can always use Linux if you really can't stand windows.
     
  18. Merode, Sep 19, 2017
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    I have to agree. I just got Intel NUC with:
    • i7-6770HQ (2,6GHz 4 cores, 8 threads)
    • Intel Iris Pro 580 (most powerful Intel GPU EVER - 1152Gflops)
    • 8GB DDR4 RAM
    • 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD
    • BT + WiFi + NFC
    • 4x USB 3.0 ports
    • 1x Thunderbolt 3
    • 1x mDP
    • 1x HDMI
    • 1x RJ45
    • 1x SD Card reader on PCI-E

    RAM and SSD is user upgradable. There's second slot for second SSD. It supports up to 2 displays at 4K@60Hz.
    I have paid total of 2558PLN with delivery which makes about 714USD (23% VAT included).
    It comes without OS, going to install Linux on it.

    Forgot to add, it's about 21x11x3cm
     
  19. Snappers macrumors member

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    Hi, I know google is my friend, but would you please recommend to me a version of Linux to use as a platform for a dedicated HTPC nuc? I would just need to run VLC.
     
  20. Altis macrumors 68030

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    If you just want to use VLC, then pretty well any of them will do. :p

    Mint (in either Cinnamon or Xfce) is always a solid bet if you're not on barebones hardware.
     
  21. Strelok macrumors 6502a

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    Sorry I’m not the most qualified person to answer that. I use Ubuntu Server on my home server (Plex and some backups), but use other devices to stream it. Regular Ubuntu would probably work just fine though.
     
  22. MjWoNeR, Sep 19, 2017
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    I will be building a Win10 NUC HTPC soon. I considered the Mini at some point but it just isn't suited for it. The NUC is killer HTPC hardware.

    LibreELEC is your best choice.
     
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    Agreed is very much the opposite Windows 10 is now extremely fast and stable, I have far more issues with my OS X based systems than the Windows 10 one's. So much so I'm moving ever further away from the Mac for professional use. Most infuriating, it's Apples own applications; Safari, Mail, Preview or the OS itself, lucky if the system is stable if utilised in a professional role. Stay up more than a week lockups & crashes occur ultimately forcing a restart. Alternatively their Windows 10 replacements have yet to glitch...

    When not used professionally the Mac's are generally fine as the workload and throughput is significantly reduced, even then the Mac's are less stable, disappointed to say the least.

    Q-6
     
  24. Strelok macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe on super old hardware. Windows 10 seems to have a problem where it starts accumulating a bunch of junk over time and starts running pretty slowly. I’ve already reinstalled it twice in the past year, and I generally don’t install random junk and try to clean it up as much as possible. It’s fine when it’s new, but damn does it turn to crap after a while. This is with a system of only SSD’s, OC’ed i7 and 16gb of RAM.
     
  25. Cape Dave macrumors 68000

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    I wish both Mac and Win would feature lock for 5 years and fix the damn things that need fixing. Remember STABILITY? Used to be a thing. Not so much anymore.
     

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