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Cobalt50

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I swore I'd get a Macbook when they were revised. Now that it has happened, I'm not so sure. What am I getting for the extra $300 for the new versus an old Macbook closeout at $999. Will it handle software upgrades a little longer?

Should I get the old Macbook at a discount or spring for the new Macbook?
 

halledise

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I swore I'd get a Macbook when they were revised. Now that it has happened, I'm not so sure. What am I getting for the extra $300 for the new versus an old Macbook closeout at $999. Will it handle software upgrades a little longer?

Should I get the old Macbook at a discount or spring for the new Macbook?

there is bugger-all difference really - go for the refurb!
I'll be keeping my early 2015 rMB for at least the next 3 years
 

Pakaku

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I'm still on a 2012 rMBP in 2016, so of course I would stick to the first rMB if I was on one.
 

Samuelsan2001

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Unless you have anything graphically intensive planned it'll make no difference, although an extra hour of battery life is always nice on an ultra portable.
 

Cobalt50

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I was set to go but now that it is time to put up the cash I'm waffling. I have a MBA '11. It's time for a new computer. I'll be damned to get a new MBA and the same old screen.

Truth be told, the Macbook was made for me. I do very little that is intense. Mostly web browsing, reading, and email thrown in.

Getting a refurb seems saner to me. But I will not upgrade for another five years or more. So getting the latest and greatest seems smart too.

I also strongly suspect that $300 of the $1300 price tag is early adopter tax. This machine will sell for 1k or 1.1k in a year or so.

I'm just sick of my MBA's screen and cruddy battery life.

Can I wait until June and WWDC? I think that the MBP is going to look a lot like what many folks want the MBA to look like now. They will be thinner and restyled but with ports and retina.
 

pyrois

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Apr 21, 2016
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I swore I'd get a Macbook when they were revised. Now that it has happened, I'm not so sure. What am I getting for the extra $300 for the new versus an old Macbook closeout at $999. Will it handle software upgrades a little longer?

Should I get the old Macbook at a discount or spring for the new Macbook?


tldr; maybe try the refurb first, try it out under your most intense regular usage sessions, and if you feel annoyed, return it and spring for the faster one, wash rinse repeat (assuming you can return it). I can tell you now, that annoyance never went away for me even though I hoped beyond hope that it would, since the Macbook was basically the laptop I've been waiting for for nearly 10 years. The Macbook performance rides that thin line that divides "fast enough" and "not fast enough" vs "fast" and "faster" and if it falls on the wrong side, it won't be $300 you're saving, but $999 you're losing.

the nitty gritty; I'm apparently one of those rare few who bought the original Macbook and was just disappointed enough at the performance to be willing to try upgrading to the refreshed Macbook. I've used Macbook Air's for work for a long time and never had an issue, thought this would be the same, but it's not.

Despite burning $1500 or whatever for the mid-range Macbook, thinking it would be "fine" for web browsing and casual coding/spreadsheet work, it turned out to basically be a waste of $1500. It's given me so much grief with all the visual stuttering, sporadic third party bluetooth compatibility (Yeah I know "use a magic mouse." Too bad the magic mouse can't track on my desk surface. Yeah I know "use a mousepad" at that point in time I may as well just "use a Macbook Air" instead of using a Macbook). Long story short, I just ordered the highest performance version of the refreshed Macbook, am going to see if it loses all the stuttering and wireless dropouts (which I might add is really really important for a computer with only one physical port) and if it doesn't, I'm returning it and switching back to my 2015 Macbook Air which, while it's uglier, has a lousier display, has a better keyboard and stable wireless mouse connectivity. Turns out prettiness and not seeing pixels on my display are awesome, but not dealbreakers, whereas constantly missing keystrokes due to the shallow keyboard and having to wait for 30 seconds every hour while my bluetooth mouse reconnects are. (Yeah, I know "just get used to the keyboard, you're using it wrong" well try "getting used to it" at 180 wpm when you don't have the same amount of free time you did when you were in middle school learning how to type).
 
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cruisin

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Can I wait until June and WWDC?
If you can wait the two months then I would wait. If you see something you would rather have you won't be annoyed, and there is a chance the 2016 MacBook might show up as a refurbished model.

The $300 is also for using the computer for a year, so I think it balances out.

The base 13 inch MacBook Pro is the same price as the base MacBook, and they have the same battery life. In exchange for a bit more weight and size, the Pro is more powerful. Maybe you will be happier with the Pro if you expect it to last 5+ years?
 

Cobalt50

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Sep 27, 2015
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tldr; maybe try the refurb first, try it out under your most intense regular usage sessions, and if you feel annoyed, return it and spring for the faster one, wash rinse repeat (assuming you can return it). I can tell you now, that annoyance never went away for me even though I hoped beyond hope that it would, since the Macbook was basically the laptop I've been waiting for for nearly 10 years. The Macbook performance rides that thin line that divides "fast enough" and "not fast enough" vs "fast" and "faster" and if it falls on the wrong side, it won't be $300 you're saving, but $999 you're losing.

the nitty gritty; I'm apparently one of those rare few who bought the original Macbook and was just disappointed enough at the performance to be willing to try upgrading to the refreshed Macbook. I've used Macbook Air's for work for a long time and never had an issue, thought this would be the same, but it's not.

Despite burning $1500 or whatever for the mid-range Macbook, thinking it would be "fine" for web browsing and casual coding/spreadsheet work, it turned out to basically be a waste of $1500. It's given me so much grief with all the visual stuttering, sporadic third party bluetooth compatibility (Yeah I know "use a magic mouse." Too bad the magic mouse can't track on my desk surface. Yeah I know "use a mousepad" at that point in time I may as well just "use a Macbook Air" instead of using a Macbook). Long story short, I just ordered the highest performance version of the refreshed Macbook, am going to see if it loses all the stuttering and wireless dropouts (which I might add is really really important for a computer with only one physical port) and if it doesn't, I'm returning it and switching back to my 2015 Macbook Air which, while it's uglier, has a lousier display, has a better keyboard and stable wireless mouse connectivity. Turns out prettiness and not seeing pixels on my display are awesome, but not dealbreakers, whereas constantly missing keystrokes due to the shallow keyboard and having to wait for 30 seconds every hour while my bluetooth mouse reconnects are. (Yeah, I know "just get used to the keyboard, you're using it wrong" well try "getting used to it" at 180 wpm when you don't have the same amount of free time you did when you were in middle school learning how to type).

I don't use a mouse. So that is a non issue. If you have the inclination, let us know how the new MB works out for you.
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If you can wait the two months then I would wait. If you see something you would rather have you won't be annoyed, and there is a chance the 2016 MacBook might show up as a refurbished model.

The $300 is also for using the computer for a year, so I think it balances out.

The base 13 inch MacBook Pro is the same price as the base MacBook, and they have the same battery life. In exchange for a bit more weight and size, the Pro is more powerful. Maybe you will be happier with the Pro if you expect it to last 5+ years?

Man, I've been waiting, waiting for this revMB. What's two more months? :'-(

I use my present MBA all over my apartment. So portability is very important. That is where the MB would shine.

Maybe I could buy an iPad and use my MBA when I need the power of OS X?

This is definitely a high order problem so I have to remember to keep my panties from bunching over it. :)
 
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