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I don’t know what you are trying to say. In any case I don’t have a particular message for that link.
Nothing. Apparently MS worked on an aqua-like theme, Apple experimented with a login screen similar to xp's.
Well, would it be a fairer comparison to compare a gasoline engine with a diesel engine or two gasoline engines?
How do you know the login screen is not the other way around or just a coincidence given that 10.1 and XP were released almost the same time? I am just curious. I think cross pollination is generally a good thing.
The cancelled Windows “Neptune“ had this style of login screen as early as 1999.
Gallery - The Collection Book
Doesn’t matter I want a car that is fast and fuel efficient. If electric is the best approach do that.
I hate when people invoke the apples and oranges argument. For that argument to make sense you would have to be comparing two identical things and what would be the point of that? Where do you draw the line on what makes item A an apple and item B an orange? It's not the things that you're comparing that matters, but the criteria for which you find yourself comparing them in the first place. Would it be fairer to compare a diesel engine with a gasoline engine or two gasoline engines? That would depend on whether the criteria for the comparison is to determine whether there are any inherent advantages to running a diesel engine over a gasoline engine.
Looks like a mashup of Platinum, Aqua, and old-school Windows. I would feel so weird using that!
Then choose electric, it has its advantages and disadvantages like diesel and gasoline cars do. What matters is what you see as a worthy tradeoff.
You make a good point. Like you said, its the criteria that matters. We can't always take apples and oranges comparisons at face value however, given the fact you can skew data to show any outcome we want. Additionally, I'd argue that by comparing two gasoline engines you aren't necessarily comparing two identical engines. One could be a four cylinder and one could be a six cylinder for instance. There needs to be a variable that stays the same (in this case engine type), otherwise the comparison will be skewed.
I used to theme Windows XP and 2003 all the time. There’s an actual Panther theme out there that makes it look almost exactly like Panther including the Apple logo.
If this is an official MS theme though that is cool. The only official MS ones I’ve seen is Royale. “Media Center Style” and Zune style. There’s also a dark Royale that I usually use.
The cancelled Windows “Neptune“ had this style of login screen as early as 1999.
Gallery - The Collection Book
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Neptune wasn’t really a canceled project, it became Windows XP. The teams behind Neptune and odyssey combined and XP came out of that.
The funny thing is that neptune’s version number is 5.5, so it offers to Upgrade both 2003 and XP, even though they’re newer.
There's also a dark blue Royale called "Embedded" - not sure if that's what you mean
It was supposed to be a home user version of Windows 2000 iirc - and that one was cancelled.
I forgot about that one. I’ve used that too though. I was referring to this one.There's also a dark blue Royale called "Embedded" - not sure if that's what you mean
I’m not sure exactly.
ME was technically supposed to be the home version of 2000, and is actually newer than 2000 by 6 months.
I just know that neptune’s dev team ended up releasing XP instead. I’m not sure why. I’ve used Neptune in a VM, it’s basically 2000 with the features of ME and XP’s login screen. I literally got all this from Wikipedia lol.
ME is nothing more than a Windows 98 Third Edition - Neptune would have been NT-based yet tailored for the home user.
Somehow I recalled things like https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/memory/memory-limits-for-windows-releases
So only Windows 8+ has a memory limit not too low for non-pro edition.
So only Windows 8+ has a memory limit not too low for non-pro edition.
I know that, however Microsoft literally marketed and sold it as the home edition to 2000. And it was released 6 months later.
Marketing != facts. But yeh, I had to tell people often enough that ME and 2000 were not the same or that it wasn't the successor.
The -p models generally had higher-resolution screens, e.g. the A21p had a 15" 1600x1200 panel, which was pretty good for 2000. The oldest machine I have that's still just about usable is a ThinkPad 600X from 1999, which was made in Scotland! It's covered in rubberised plastic and it feels like a tank.
I've recently bought Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, and because my desktop PC is a more-or-less maxed-out LGA1155-era machine* I've tried using my 17" PowerBook as a separate navigation panel, because (a) it has a big screen (b) I can save a lot of memory on my desktop machine by shutting down Chrome. It works surprisingly well. Of course an iPad would be just as effective (actual pilots use them to file paperwork) but I want a keyboard and a screen that points towards my face instead of the ceiling.
As mentioned elsewhere the early Core Duo / Core II Duo machines are in an odd grey area where they can't run modern browsers but they also can't run TenFourFox, and the G5 machines used a lot of power, so ironically I find the G4-era laptops more useful in 2020 as giant iPods / text document viewers / mild internet surfers.
* On a complete tangent I've always wanted a Xeon. They have a mysterious aura, even though the LGA1155-era Xeons are essentially just i7s that survived more passes through Intel's quality control routine. And now I have one! An E2-1275, with integral graphics. It was cheap. Sadly I don't think there were any dual-processor LGA1155 boards, but now I have a professional CPU, and when I run Cookie Clicker I'm running it with a professional CPU.
Intel ain't havin' that. The Chinese are pushing the envelope somewhat tho - 2x socket 2011 but a chipset not officially dual-capable
In 2004 I was in Germany doing some process mapping using Visio. The company equipped us with Thinkpad 600Es with a mahoosive 128MB of RAM. We had to insert all the process text in the Visio chart on the right with process flows on the left. Individual chapters easily reached 70-80 pages. If you edited any of the process diagrams, you had to shift the text on the right to match. That often meant 50-odd pages of text moved line by line on 128MB of RAM. It drove me mad enough to buy my own HP laptop and run Visio on a trial basis and it was a mad rush to finish that particular project before the trial ran out because I couldn't stomach using that Thinkpad for another day.
It did have a fantastic keyboard, probably the best I have ever used on a laptop and I have one or two 600E Thinkpads knocking around somewhere. They just were a tad too underpowered for 2004.
By the way, you missed out on another great HP offer years ago with Xeons. You could get a Xeon server for £99 plus VAT. So I did. Only drawback was that it came with x8 PCIe slots so you had to trim a graphics card to fit and the BIOS would clock it down to x1 speeds anyway because: server.
The processor alone cost several times the price of the whole unit. I have no idea what HP was smoking at the time but it wasn't good stuff.
This was the server: https://www.serversdirect.co.uk/p/138712/hp-proliant-ml110-g5-dual-core-xeon-3065-.33-ghz
ThinkPad 600s in 2004? 2004 was when my X40 (which has a Pentium M and 2GB of RAM) came out. Any idea why they gave you laptops of that vintage?
They (the company) were cheap. I was less chagrined by the antiquity than by the bare minimum of RAM they gave me. Constant freezing while Explorer and apps paged to disk. You typed a sentence then had to wait a few seconds for Windows to catch up. No fun.
Reminds me that I also bought my 15" PowerBook 1.5Ghz when I was there. I had to pay the postman in cash on delivery. That was the only way you could do mail order in Germany unless you had an account with the company in question.