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An iPad mini is $499 and the rumored iPhone Ultra will be $2000 at a minimum. They're not discontinuing the Mini
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I have an iPad Mini and an iPhone Pro Max and have owned a folding phone before and cannot see the Mini being replaced due to the folding phone. I am sure that Apple will immediately have at least half of market share for folding phones within a year of the release, but I believe that overall folding phones are and will remain a niche market.
 
No chance.
iPad mini will be discontinued once iPhone ultra is released.
Why would anyone think to get a potentially $2000+ niche foldable phone with a smaller screen, over a $600+ tablet with a slightly bigger screen? If the Mini does get discontinued, I’m sure a lot of people would get either a refurbished model or a new from authorized dealers at a discount over the phone.
 
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I have an iPad Mini and an iPhone Pro Max and have owned a folding phone before and cannot see the Mini being replaced due to the folding phone. I am sure that Apple will immediately have at least half of market share for folding phones within a year of the release, but I believe that overall folding phones are and will remain a niche market.
Exactly! I’m in the market for an e-reader and had my eyes on the Mini for a while. I have absolutely no intentions of getting a niche market item
 


According to the latest rumors, Apple is close to launching its next-generation iPad mini. So what should we expect from the successor to the iPad mini 7 that Apple released over a year ago? Read on to find out.

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Processor and Performance

Apple is working on a next-generation version of the iPad mini (codename J510/J511) that features the A19 Pro chip, according to information found in code that Apple mistakenly shared in August.

Apple's A19 Pro chip since debuted in the iPhone Air and iPhone 17 Pro models. The iPhone 17 Pro models include the higher-end version of Apple's A19 Pro chip with a 6-core CPU and a 6-core GPU, while the iPhone Air uses a mid-tier A19 Pro chip with one fewer GPU core than the A19 Pro chip used in the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max.

If the code leak is accurate for the iPad mini 8, Apple is likely to use the mid-tier A19 Pro chip found in the iPhone Air. This is based on the fact that the A17 Pro chip used in the iPad mini 7 has a 6-core CPU with two high-performance cores and four efficiency cores, along with a 5-core GPU, compared to the 6-core GPU found on the A17 Pro used in the iPhone 15 Pro.

Apple built the A19 Pro chip on an upgraded third-generation 3-nanometer N3P process for modest speed and efficiency improvements. The chip includes a 16-core Neural Engine, next-generation dynamic caching, and unified image compression.

The GPU in the A19 Pro has an upgraded architecture with a larger cache, more memory, and Neural Accelerators that are built into each core. Apple says that this change provides 3× the peak GPU compute over the prior-generation chip. There's also an upgraded 16-core Neural Engine for AI tasks.

There is an outside chance that Apple opts for the A20 Pro chip for the new iPad mini. The claim has been made by a MacRumors tipster who analyzed a macOS kernel debug kit containing internal Apple codenames. However, the iPad mini has not always received Apple's newest A-series chip at the time it was updated, so the A19 Pro cannot be ruled out at this time. iPhone 18 Pro models are also expected to use the A20 Pro chip, which will reportedly be fabricated with TSMC's advanced 2nm process.

Display

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Apple's plan to transition the ‌‌iPad mini‌‌ from an LCD to an OLED display is widely rumored. According to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, the small form-factor tablet is likely to be the next Apple device to adopt OLED. According to a Chinese leaker with sources in Apple's supply chain, Apple has evaluated a Samsung-made OLED display for its next iPad mini model.

It remains unclear whether the iPad mini 8 will feature a higher refresh rate than the 60Hz LCD display used in the existing iPad mini 7, but since the new base iPhone 17 now uses a 120Hz ProMotion panel, it would be reasonable to expect the same on the first OLED iPad mini. A separate report has suggested the ‌‌‌iPad mini 8‌‌‌'s screen could increase in size from 8.3 inches to 8.7 inches with the adoption of OLED.

OLED panels can individually control each pixel, resulting in more precise color reproduction and deeper blacks compared to other common display technologies. They also provide superior contrast, faster response times, better viewing angles, and greater design flexibility. All of Apple's flagship iPhones use OLED panels, and in May 2024 the company brought the display technology to the iPad Pro for the first time.

Unlike Apple's ‌iPad Pro‌ models, which feature two-stack low-temperature polycrystalline oxide (LTPO) OLED panels‌, the ‌iPad mini‌ may have a single-stack low-temperature polycrystalline silicon (LTPS) panel, which would make it dimmer.

Chassis Design

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Apple is reportedly working to give the iPad mini 8 a more water-resistant design, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman. The updated casing would bring protection levels closer to those of the iPhone, making the tablet safer for use in damp environments.

To achieve this, Apple is said to have designed a new vibration-based speaker system that eliminates the need for traditional speaker holes. By using sound-emitting surfaces instead of open grilles, the company can reduce potential entry points for water and dust, resulting in a more sealed, durable enclosure.

On the iPhone, Apple relies on adhesives and gaskets to shield speakers and other openings from moisture. The iPad mini's approach appears to go further, doing away with the holes altogether. Current iPad mini models lack any official IP rating, but the upcoming version could mark the first in the lineup to feature a certified level of water protection.

Apple patents could offer further clues to the new design direction. For example, a 2014 patent outlines a "mechanically actuated panel acoustic system" that vibrates flat surfaces to generate sound, effectively turning parts of a device's chassis into a speaker diaphragm. This could potentially allow Apple to produce audio without visible speaker holes. The patent suggest Apple has been building towards a sealed, vibration-based acoustic system for several years.

Release Date

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According to research firm Omdia, the ‌‌iPad mini‌‌ is expected to adopt an OLED display in 2027. However, Korea's ET News and ZDNET Korea have both suggested that the iPad mini will be updated with an OLED display in 2026. Bloomberg has also said the update could come as soon as this year.

The most recent word on the subject comes from Weibo-based leaker Instant Digital, who claims the OLED iPad mini will be launched in the... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: OLED iPad Mini: Release Date, Pricing, and What to Expect
It is a very great rumor! It will be good if it materializes. If iPhone ultra had not been planned, I would have got this instantly when it is released. The iPhone Ultra erased this need as it is the most perfect device as phone and mini tablet that can be pocketed. One device is only needed and maintained.
 
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Apple's ‌iPad mini‌ with OLED display technology and improved water resistance is expected to be more expensive, and Apple could charge up to $100 more for the device, according to Bloomberg's Gurman. The ‌iPad mini‌ is currently priced starting at $499. Gurman has previously argued that Apple should consider a lower-end version of the mini, or at least a change to its current $499 starting price, given that it's up against rival products that cost a lot less.
If they charge up to $100 more, that would put it at iPad Air pricing. Maybe pricing is about to go up all around the iPad lineup? With AI hogging all the resources in the tech world these days I'm sure the price is about to go up. And most people will happily give more and more away for the convenience.
 
I don't understand why apple would release a foldable iPhone and not make the iPad mini the cheaper non-foldable iPhone. I don't care about the for factor, I have AirPods and an Apple Watch for those rare instances when I can't bring the device with me.

I'm on the same wavelength but I wouldn't name it iPhone. iPads with cellular should be able to act as primary devices that enable Watch setup and pairing. I'd love to have an iPad mini as my portable screen when I need one and otherwise just use my Watch + AirPods as my always-on-me devices.
 
OLED and promotion would be enough for me to upgrade my mini 7. Come on Apple make it happen!

Guessing fall launch for this which would be 2 years since the 7 released.
 
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i rarely use my mini but when i do use it, its because i need it solely for a specific purpose (annotating/drawing diagrams with pencil pro, etc).

so i guess ill upgrade. would love OLED and promotion
 
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The MacBook Neo revision might eat all the binned chips that would be used for this product. I would not be surprised if they wait to see if Neo demand wavers before actually releasing this product.
This is what I was thinking too, but they might end up taking a slightly different strategy and have the next MacBook Neo available with 5 or 6 core GPU configurations and just extend their A19 Pro production run. Also possible that the next Neo could get a chip with a different binning, such as slightly lower CPU clock speeds (the A15 chip used in the Mini 6 was binned this way).
 
Been saying this! I use a keyboard case from MePadKey with my mini. It's the perfect form factor, and the issues I have with the case are things that Apple could flawlessly nail, like the trackpad and design when closed
Yes exactly! I’d prefer it to be like the Magic Keyboard for the Pro/Air but I’d be happy with one like the regular iPad as well. I get it would be small and cramped, but that’s a known tradeoff.

I keep contemplating getting a Pro or Air for the keyboard because I miss having an AiO iPad for school but I really can’t justify the size when I already have a MacBook… the mini would be perfect!
 
If they charge up to $100 more, that would put it at iPad Air pricing. Maybe pricing is about to go up all around the iPad lineup? With AI hogging all the resources in the tech world these days I'm sure the price is about to go up. And most people will happily give more and more away for the convenience.
I'm not sure if that matters much. Most people probably aren't cross shopping the Mini and the Air as the Mini. The pricing ladder only really matters for the iPad, iPad Air and iPad Pro.
 
It seems unlikely that they would make the screen on the mini better than the one on the Air. Otherwise why would you pay more for an Air when all you're really getting at that point is a bigger screen and an M processor?
 
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With the water resistance I wonder if they will market this as a “use anywhere” iPad where “anywhere” included outside in the sun. Or by the pool. All situations where a brighter screen would be absolutely necessary. That’s my biggest complaint with the current screen (120hz would also be nice but doesn’t change what I can do with the iPad mini). So hopefully we see improvements here.
 
With the water resistance I wonder if they will market this as a “use anywhere” iPad where “anywhere” included outside in the sun. Or by the pool. All situations where a brighter screen would be absolutely necessary. That’s my biggest complaint with the current screen (120hz would also be nice but doesn’t change what I can do with the iPad mini). So hopefully we see improvements here.

To this date no iPad is water resistance. I doubt the new iPad Mini is going to be water resistance where if you drop it in the pool it will still work with no problems.
 
The only thing I want the next iPad mini to have is a smaller price tag. $499 for the base model is crazy.
Yeah there is the is AI thing going on now that is raising prices for CPU, RAM and Storage so $499 accounting for inflation is a bargain.
 
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To this date no iPad is water resistance. I doubt the new iPad Mini is going to be water resistance where if you drop it in the pool it will still work with no problems.
Did you not read the article? I’m referring specifically to the rumor that this no holes speaker system (which according to the rumors is entirely new) is coming to the iPad mini giving an iPad water resistance for the first time. I’m just thinking if Apple wants to market a new tech like that, this is one way they could do it.
 
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