omg 512 GB is going to take forever to fill in one go around

Discussion in 'iPad' started by max2, Jun 9, 2017.

  1. max2 macrumors 68020

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    It takes forever with nPlayer over WiFi and I don't want to use iTunes because it just adds all my media files in one location. I want them organized.

    Is there any better way to add all 512 GB (Well actually like 470 GB to 499 GB) to a new iPad without having to do it where it takes forever ? I know the quickest way is through iTunes with the cord connected through USB. Though I don't want all my media files added all as one in the same directory. I want them organized into folders like nPlayer allows you to do! I just got to do it by WiFi though.
     
  2. pat500000 macrumors G3

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    Dont you do work on it? Do you play high end games?
     
  3. max2 thread starter macrumors 68020

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    I don't do mobile gaming.
     
  4. pat500000 macrumors G3

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    Okay but work? Editing on ipad does take alot.
     
  5. Shirasaki macrumors 604

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    nPlayer puts all your media files under a single Document folder within their app. iTunes put all your music files under a single “iTunes_Control” folder. You will not achieve your goal anyway, because this is how tree structure directory works.
    Also, iTunes does not store your media files in just one folder other than a music or movie or whatever folder.
    Well, maybe this is too trivial to be discussed in here.
    You may better end up with either buying a 1000Mbps router, or using cord for transmission. Regular 100Mbps router won’t be able to transfer files wirelessly fast enough.

    Oh, I have 200GB music, 300GB of TV series, so 512 is not enough for me. ;)
     
  6. Foggydog macrumors 6502

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    That's nuts. My 12.9 is 128G and only about 35 gigs being used.
     
  7. triple-tap macrumors 6502

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    Same. I have all of my documents from work (real estate attorney) synced to my personal iPad Pro and I still have ~ 50% of my 128gb free.
     
  8. Shirasaki macrumors 604

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    Mostly only when you edit something like image or video.
     
  9. d5aqoëp macrumors 6502a

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    If there is USB 3 syncing speed, transferring videos and music would be much faster.
     
  10. Bravia3d macrumors member

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    I'm getting the 10.5 512gb version and plan on putting all my music and numerous movies on it. That much space is perfect!
     
  11. iamMacPerson macrumors 68030

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    You’d have to use a USB 3 cable to achieve the faster speeds however. The only USB 3 lighting cable is the USB-C variant.
     
  12. jamesrick80, Jun 10, 2017
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    jamesrick80 macrumors 68020

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    Due to the limitations of the iPad, utilizing that 512 gb will be frustrating. You cannot even connect one to a PC or Mac and simply drag and drop without going into horrendous iTunes. The 512 gb was created to be a moneymaker...all of these so called pro users cannot fulfill this memory unless they force themselves to do so.

    For those getting the 512 gb, the best use cases are for video editing and 4K video recording which to me is still gimped on iOs; more limitations.

    It will take forever to get your files over to your iPad pro to fill a good bit of that space up. I recommend the 64 gb Pro due to these types of limitations unless you are one of those few who actually utilizes the circumstances I stated above.


    Most other devices are simple drag and drop with a real file manager. FOR You guys that are not using the beta ios 11.... there is no file manager till Fall and based on early reviews it's not as great as many thought it would be...once again gimped. Smh
     
  13. millydog macrumors regular

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    You can copy files via the cable to nPlayer. This will let you transfer them in at the faster speed, then use nPlayer to move them into the folders within nPlayer that you want.
    To do this, connect your iPad to your computer, load iTunes, use the icon in the top left corner to select your iPad, select Apps from the pane on the left, on the right hand side you see the apps on your device, below that set of windows, you see a list of apps that enable file sharing with your computer. Select nPlayer in that screen and you will see an add button. Just add the videos that you want there and they will transfer at USB speeds.
     
  14. bigpoppamac31 macrumors 68000

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    So the iOS devices are not USB3 speeds?
     
  15. garyleecn macrumors 6502a

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    Ever considered plex?

    The fastest way to do it is wifi.
    A decent 802.11ac should give you speed around 50-60mb/s
     
  16. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    Hoping the new file system will allow me much more freedom to use my 512gb. I can hardly believe that Apple is giving us a proper file system.
     
  17. d5aqoëp, Jun 10, 2017
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    d5aqoëp macrumors 6502a

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    I have that cable and it did not give usb 3 speeds when used with iPad Pro 12.9” and my PC’s ASMedia usb port
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    That file manager is the worst app ever and a poor excuse of “Me too” when comparing iOS with Android. Even first timers come up with better file managers on Android play store.

    Whoever designed that app should not be able to live with the guilt. Maybe some senior manager is behind

    Unless.... unless.... the real file access and drag drop functionality is coming to it in the future betas.
     
  18. Neodym macrumors 68000

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    Ts ts ts - today's youth.:rolleyes:

    Where is the problem to wait some time to get the one-off, first-time data sync onto the device one? If need be, let it copy over night or even over the weekend. In the meantime, go out with friends, have a drink, kiss a girl and enjoy that scary thing called "real life". :eek:

    And when you had a good time and return home, your new iPad will be sitting there patiently, ready to go and filled with all the data your heart desires. :)
     
  19. jerryk macrumors 68040

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    The bigger problem is that 512GB is a lot of data to lose with one drop. More storage you have, the more you need backups.
     
  20. rui no onna macrumors 603

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    Iirc, iTunes/iCloud doesn't back up downloadable media and I've got a good enough redundancy system for DRM-free content stored on my 12TB file server.
     
  21. bufffilm Suspended

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    512gb formatted is what?

    About 480gb off the top of my head, I'm guessing. Give or take a few.

    I'm not sure the capacity I will get yet. I might not even get the Pro2 even.
     
  22. masotime macrumors 68020

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    Hmmmm.... Apple needs to allow file transfers directly via the lightning port to USB cable to external portable drives if they are going to add an official "Files" app. Using iTunes is an extraordinarily clumsy mechanism to achieve this - otherwise I don't see much point in the "Files" app in the first place.

    It should be sufficient to sandbox whatever local folder the "Files" app accesses to contain completely non-executable code. There may be some attack vectors by maliciously creating trojan horse files with extensions that are registered to certain apps... but that is up to Apple to dictate an API or system to defend against this, otherwise they shouldn't have added a half-baked "Files app" solution.
     
  23. JeffyTheQuik macrumors 68020

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    I understand what you're saying, but at 1.8MB per minute (AAC files - rough guess), where are you going that will have you away from your computer with all of your files for 277,778 minutes?

    ...or 4629 hours
    ...or 192 days
    (assuming that you sleep for 8 hours/day, and don't need music during that time...)
    289 days?

    I'm not knocking you, I'm just thinking that's a lot of music to store, but I suppose people said the same thing when there was 20GB on the iPods...
     
  24. masotime macrumors 68020

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    1.8MB/min is 30 kilobytes/sec. That is slower than 56kbps modems which are pre-2000, 5 times slower than the first 1x CD-ROM drives which were 150 kilobytes/sec. Where are you getting your numbers from?

    EDIT: Nevermind. After re-reading I see you are referring to why it's necessary to store so much music on your device.

    I think for music, streaming is sufficient for most cases unless you're going into areas with no cellular reception. The same cannot be said for video though, especially 4K Video. If we take 60Mbps as the acceptable limit for 4K video quality, then 1 minute is 450MB per minute. Although that's not really meaningful for a non-4K screen.

    So if we dial it back down to 1440p at, say 25Mbps, we're still looking at 180MB per minute.
     
  25. Tobermoon macrumors newbie

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    I am sure filling 512GB straight away will be tough for many, and easy for many, too. I could either fill it with my vast library, or be smart about what I really need and therefore only use 25-30% of the space.

    But I am going all in and getting the 512GB, because of music, movies, garage band creations, maybe even some art. And whatever else pleases me.

    Back when I got my current iPad, 5 years ago, I opted for the max, which was 64GB. The smart kid selling it at the store, told this poor old man (who was barely in his forties) "please, please, if you are really going to buy this with 64GB, do use the space." I almost laughed in his face. First day with it I had 40GB in use.

    Reminds me of the bright youngster at the Apple Store who asked me what I planned to use the MBP for. One thing was to mess with programming on OS X. He kindly and with concern alerted me that OS X was "different" ...to which I almost replied that I have seen and done programming on more OSs than years he's been alive.
     

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