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So for the last 2 posts.
Currently it is in clamshell mode with an external apple keyboard. So still using it but not mobile any more :(
As for the os thing. As I said. I know it’s old and have been ready to upgrade. But it would have been perfect for my dad or wife. Also, I probably would have tried putting BS on there using the unsupported mac thread. I have a hackintosh too that I mess around with just to satisfy the geek in me. So doing the unsupported route would be another fun little project
 
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its an injustice for me not to say i had crashes on windows

the way window cache works, and leftover residues from the MSConfig, I was dealing with BSOD and had to defrag on a monthly basis. digging into the system32 files wasn't exactly a thrill either. having to delete any leftover cache after uninstalling a program just to make sure its completely gone its a hinderance i didn't have to deal with on mac.

this isn't a isolated incident, i remember going to my dad office about once a month to fix their computer issue, until i switched him onto a mac mini. after that he hasn't called me about tech issues, and that was a year ago.

in the last 10 years, i dealt with window bsod more than 100 times, on macos, less than 10 freezes, but macos freeze lets me resume my work right after reboot, so nothing is lost.

not to mention time machine is just so much easier and convenient to deal with than windows backup, which didn't even work that one time i tried it.

What version of Windows was this?

and sorry for hijacking the OP's thread….

But…. possibly the newer or pricier Mac laptops must be less troublesome then, as my 2012 MBA is constantly freezing with a spinning wheel preventing me from working … and the 2017 MBP wasn't all that much better even with 8 GB RAM … both had only 128 GB storage, which quickly gets used up, and hence why I was having to use external storage devices...

while in contrast, I haven't experienced any issues with BSOD or Win 10 os freezing up yet on my new Win 10 Dell Inspiron 5505 Ryzen 7 laptop… it's not to say it won't at some later point - but - so far I'm experiencing no issues with the laptop PC;

Like I am/did with the Apple laptops…

my Win10 laptop experience so far is exactly opposite of my regular experience with my Apple laptops :(
… And... my pricier 2017 MBP has a broken screen, and totally useless as well at this point in time :(

So …. I am hoping W10 /AMD Ryzen 7 4700U CPU/ 32 GB RAM and 1TB storage will help protect me from experiencing such issues for a little bit -

since I unfortunately could never afford the same level of specs in an Apple laptop …
which may be why I am not experiencing issues now ….

anyways ….

Speaking of Time machine backups, I do need to set this new Dell up for regular backups, so thanks for the reminder on that!
 
What version of Windows was this?

and sorry for hijacking the OP's thread….

But…. possibly the newer or pricier Mac laptops must be less troublesome then, as my 2012 MBA is constantly freezing with a spinning wheel preventing me from working … and the 2017 MBP wasn't all that much better even with 8 GB RAM … both had only 128 GB storage, which quickly gets used up, and hence why I was having to use external storage devices...

while in contrast, I haven't experienced any issues with BSOD or Win 10 os freezing up yet on my new Win 10 Dell Inspiron 5505 Ryzen 7 laptop… it's not to say it won't at some later point - but - so far I'm experiencing no issues with the laptop PC;

Like I am/did with the Apple laptops…

my Win10 laptop experience so far is exactly opposite of my regular experience with my Apple laptops :(
… And... my pricier 2017 MBP has a broken screen, and totally useless as well at this point in time :(

So …. I am hoping W10 /AMD Ryzen 7 4700U CPU/ 32 GB RAM and 1TB storage will help protect me from experiencing such issues for a little bit -

since I unfortunately could never afford the same level of specs in an Apple laptop …
which may be why I am not experiencing issues now ….

anyways ….

Speaking of Time machine backups, I do need to set this new Dell up for regular backups, so thanks for the reminder on that!
i had bsod throughout windows xp, 7, and 10, 10 was more stable, but perhaps at that point i was more using my mac more than my windows.

my most crash prone mac was probably my 2011 mba, it had 4gb ram and 128gb ssd, it runs out of ram quick so it constantly shuffle data back and forth between the ssd and the ram, i know i hit a hardware limitation so i don't blame the laptop for it.

on my windows side i had high grade gaming hardware that i mostly kept it stock, so i know it wasn't a hardware issue, bsod became such a common occurrence that i kept the boot drive pretty basic and offload most installation and files to 2nd drive.
 
i had bsod throughout windows xp, 7, and 10, 10 was more stable, but perhaps at that point i was more using my mac more than my windows.

my most crash prone mac was probably my 2011 mba, it had 4gb ram and 128gb ssd, it runs out of ram quick so it constantly shuffle data back and forth between the ssd and the ram, i know i hit a hardware limitation so i don't blame the laptop for it.

on my windows side i had high grade gaming hardware that i mostly kept it stock, so i know it wasn't a hardware issue, bsod became such a common occurrence that i kept the boot drive pretty basic and offload most installation and files to 2nd drive.

Well, I'm hoping such hardware limitations of both MacBooks I purchased will no longer be an issue with the Win 10 Dell laptop!

*And I actually disagree as I would/do blame Apple for selling such an underperforming laptops with such limitations for premium prices!!!

[Apple did not bother to increase the RAM for the MBA 2 years later, and worse yet, designed it as such that we could no longer up the amount of RAM in the laptops! And then 4 years later, while it was twice the RAM than in my older the MBA (8 GB) the storage remained the same as my 2012 MBA, instead of upping the storage on the MBP to 256 GB storage to meet the minimums that the Windows laptops are typically offering now! So still getting less hardware and spending more $$$$.]

So far, even with the entry level RAM (8GB) and storage (256 GB), AMD Ryzen 7 (4700U) CPU and Win 10 o/s, it seems to run smoother than the 2017 MacBook Pro (8 GB RAM and 128 GB storage) … the 2017 MBP also seemed to be running hotter than the Dell does - although the Dell is running warmer than I would have anticipated - but I'm hoping adding 2 sticks of RAM/upping it 32GB, plus also upping the storage to 1TB, it will then run more efficiently and therefore cooler. I guess only time will tell, as there's going to be some additional energy to run the 2nd stick of memory… it will be interesting to see though! :)

All I know is that with 32 GB of memory, I doubt I will run up against the hardware limit for memory installed.
And if I do, per Crucial site, this should be able to run 64 GB, so if it comes to that I can try adding 2 sticks of 32 GB at a future point and up the storage to 2 TB…

And I could always install another o/s (such as Linux) if for some reason Win 10 doesn't live up to my needs - without worry of similar limitations I've had to deal with for the MBA and MBP, which were not inexpensive devices to start with (especially in comparison to what similar specced windows laptops would have cost. :(

I'm just so tired of paying for flawed and outdated hardware for Apple products; especially since the 2017 MBP display did not hold up. (I only had it a year and now it's apparently nothing more than a pricy paperweight.) :(

[It was a leftover model, but, my family bought it as a gift when they had seen it on sale because they thought it was of similar quality to their 2015 MBP's - but sadly that wasn't the case. Also, by the time I got it, it was past the 90 days to purchase Apple Care + ; and I could not get Apple to budge on letting me purchase it; even after going to the Apple store and showing them I had not yet opened the box, it was still fully sealed and I even inquired/offered that they could run it through their checks to verify there were no issues before they sold me the Apple Care+ policy. But still told no due to missing the 90 day deadline.]

The only decent baseline Apple product that has held up, that our family has purchased to date was the 2015 entry level MacBook Pro laptops … (even the iPhones we are still using were part of a yet another prior (for lack of better term) - scandal : "throttle/battery-gate" and the replacement batteries kept charged worse than the ones that it came with.)

Time will tell if the amount of RAM (32 GB) and larger storage drive will deter any issues with BSOD or not! :)

I know I'm currently maxing memory in the range of 70+% with the base amount of 8GB RAM installed and the CPU temps have been as high as the 80+s, so if the RAM comes in this week I will be able to find out how upping the RAM and storage (hopefully) improves upon those stats, if at all.

I don't game, but I do lots of research for school and tend to have LOTS of tabs open - and at some point I will need to use it for work again, so I'll have to consume additional resources running whatever applications they will require at that point. I have predominantly been using the MS O365 cloud office products rather than installing O365 locally, so that saves me space at the moment. But once I up the storage, I should have the spare capacity to install it and use it locally. That should give me a better idea about any sort of limitations or conflicts that might show up with additional applications running locally and simultaneously. (Currently it's mostly just the OS, the Dell apps and the anti-virus app that have been added so far. I also installed Chrome, but haven't needed to use it much, as I've been using the Edge browser and the MS cloud for my class assignments.

But so far, the Dell Windows laptop is proving to be a better machine for what I need and how I use laptops when compared to either of the pricier MacBooks - or the 256 GB iPad Pro that I own/purchased as well - while partaking in the Apple ecosystem /echo-chamber, which I am now (slowly) weaning myself away from.

Apple would need to drastically change their quality control as well as update the baseline RAM and storage (or make it so that it was once again user upgradable with reasonably priced replacement displays) for me to consider purchasing yet another laptop or tablet from them!:(

Replacing my MBP display at probably 75% of the original purchase cost (and is still pricy) "sale" price for an overstocked 2 yr old entry level MacBook device which is known by Apple to be an issue (and even if I find one used to replace it with from another donor device for less, the original issues with the limitations of the original design still exists) neither option passes a cost to benefit test here anymore. If Apple wants to make good on replacing my display for the minimal amount of what it could be and guarantees it, I might consider getting it replaced by them if they don't turn around and then come back and tell me that there was other issues with it and it will therefore cost me more (in an attempt to try to get more money out of me, such as the keyboard another known issue in this model, or the battery, which has always worried me as you can feel the heat coming through the top of keyboard area) since they know the cable is going to fail by design, and hence they should replace the display for free and along with the keyboard and probably the battery too, at which point then they should just acknowledge that there were significant design flaws and that this model is a lemon to begin solely by design, and offer to replace it with a newer model for a deeply discounted rate and the cost of apple care + protection for the new model... which I would have paid for initially if they would have sold it to me originally after the 90 day cutoff but which they refused to allow. So instead of them making good on their poorly designed and very flawed 2017 MBP and take care of for say the same costs as it would have been if I'd have been allowed to purchase AppleCare+ initially - it could have been so simple… and still could be if they would bother to make it good again…solely by offering me to pay for Apple Care + now and covering the repairs for the same amounts as what it would have cost me if I had Apple Care+ in place like I wanted originally! :( but not holding my breath as Apple doesn't seem to want to stand by their products now that Jobs is no longer around….

End of vent, and sorry again to the OP for this side thread!!! Good night and I'll bid farewell from this thread going forward!

(Although I think we will all be interested in learning what you decided to buy as a replacement!) :)

Everyone, be safe and take care!!!
 
well guys, I broke down and bought a new display. it was rated as an A display and boy am I glad I went this route. took less than an hour to replace and im back up and mobile. now I can wait out the ARM launch and see what's up. if not I may get the Dell XPS 17 inch. but now at least I don't have to rush and can also have a spare machine later

sooooooooo happy!!!!
 
Excellent! I definitely think you made the right decision. You probably have your MBP dialed in and know how to navigate the various apps, and best of all, did not make a huge divot in your savings account.

You may be surprised how long your current machine will meet your needs.
 
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