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Does anyone think the S10 Plus will best this camera? Next year its going to be a hard choice between the Xs Max and the S10 Plus.
 
Does anyone think the S10 Plus will best this camera? Next year its going to be a hard choice between the Xs Max and the S10 Plus.

Next year, the new iPhone with an updated camera will be out. And besides, they are not even done making the current camera better.
 
Does anyone think the S10 Plus will best this camera? Next year its going to be a hard choice between the Xs Max and the S10 Plus.

Invalid question. I can't compare a phone that will be released next year with a phone that was released last week. That's not a valid comparison. It seems a bit disingenuous to phrase it that way.

Generally speaking, I would expect newer phones to have better cameras than older phones.
 
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I feel like sometimes the smart HDR makes the image too flat and low-contrast. That's why I prefer the non-HDR versions of the sunset pics I posted. But sometimes the HDR version actually has better contrast, so it all kinda depends. I think I'm going to keep the "keep normal photo" setting turned on for now.
 
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I feel like sometimes the smart HDR makes the image too flat and low-contrast. That's why I prefer the non-HDR versions of the sunset pics I posted. But sometimes the HDR version actually has better contrast, so it all kinda depends. I think I'm going to keep the "keep normal photo" setting turned on for now.[/QUOTE]

I see that sometimes as well, but remember the edit button! You can adjust the final image instead of settling with the way it is. Adjust the contrast, black point, etc. you’ll have a much better image when you edit. I’ll help you if you need it.
[doublepost=1537931979][/doublepost]Here is a cool gadget that you all may like. These can be purchased on amazon and they really help with photos. It’s a lightweight tripod and phone bracket that will fit in a back pocket. There are also wireless remote triggers for the iPhone as well. Plus you can hold the tripod in your hand while the iPhone is in the bracket and shoot still video. I used to use this all the time.. I’m about to start again since the camera had an awesome upgrade, time for some hdr timelapse videos!!! Set it on the hood of your vehicle, the sidewalks, or anywhere flat. Tabletops are great also.
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I see that sometimes as well, but remember the edit button! You can adjust the final image instead of settling with the way it is. Adjust the contrast, black point, etc. you’ll have a much better image when you edit. I’ll help you if you need it.
Yes, I should have mentioned that I've found that a quick bump to the contrast slider can often improve the image without too much fuss!
 
I've noticed an issue when using the 2x optical lens (non-digital), the pictures don't come out as clear. On the X it wasn't like this...
 

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Coming from the X, this camera is fantastic! Normally the sky would have been completely blown out in this shot.
 

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I just noticed in my camera settings (Settings->Camera, not in the camera app) that Smart HDR is off on my XS. Is this turned off by default?
 
I just noticed in my camera settings (Settings->Camera, not in the camera app) that Smart HDR is off on my XS. Is this turned off by default?

My XS Max is On by default. Can’t imagine XS is different.
 

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I did a little photo walk today and compared the Xs, X, and my Pixel 2 cameras today. I have only limited time with my iPhone X, as I am going to give it to my mom to replace her iPhone 6.

Overall, I like the camera for both photos and videos, over the X, and in some cases the Pixel 2. Here are some of my shots and commentary. on them

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In late afternoon light all 3 phones do well at pulling out details from a well lit scene. Overall I prefer the X and Pixel 2 images over the Xs in this case. In these shots I did not touch to focus or set exposure, I just pulled out the cameras and took the pictures.

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Different scene, but the same tactic, take out the phone, take a picture. Here you can see the added computational photography come into play with the Xs over the X. Notice how the trees over the bridge in the iPhone X shot are completely washed out as compared to the Pixel 2 and iPhone Xs.

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2X zoom on all 3 cameras. Amazing how well the Pixel 2 stacks up to the iPhones while having a single fixed lens. This gives me strong hopes that the Xr will do quite well with a single lens. Overall in this shot, I like how the Xs pulls out more details in the lower light, all without blowing out the highlights above the path.

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3rd shot is Pixel 2 without watermark


Portrait mode
While this mode is intended for taking pictures of faces, perhaps animals and other beings, I often use it (on my Pixel 2) for pictures of plants, beer, car parts, and other items where I want good depth of field. Overall, I have never been happy with portrait mode or effects on the iPhone X. It always tended to have poor edges, and do a bad job of locking focus.

Final Thoughts
The Xs had far more keepers in my testing today than did the X, though for me, the winner is still the computational effort the Pixel 2 puts into these types of portrait style shots. That said, none of these do as well as my Sigma 1.4 on my full frame camera. There really is no replacement (yet) for a good Film, DSLR, or Mirrorless camera and good glass to go with it.

Overall on the Xs Camera, I like it better than the X, and in some cases it is better than the Pixel 2, and other places falls behind. My biggest issue with the Xs is how it tends to over compensate for low light by bringing up the shadows too much in some of my examples. If that could be toned down a little, it would be far more appealing in my opinion.




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To be edited later, I am putting the Xs above both other phones. Really good focus, exposure control, OIS, and (finally) stereo audio Make this the best ever iPhone for video (IMO).

Where are these shots taken?? I'd love to walk or bike on that path. Great shots.
 
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