On my second MacBook Pro Retina, soon to be number 3!

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I shall never buy a first-gen anything from Apple again!

The first iPhone, the first Intel MacBook Pro, the first MagSafe adapter, the first MacBook Air, all of them were disastrous with countless failures and all of them were resolved and never heard of again, in later iterations.

The hell are you talking about, EVERY single product that apple releases is 'riddled with problems' over here. I've yet to see a time where apple launched any product without half the posts on here being people complaining about QA issues, whether it be scratches or yellow screens, or dents, or things not working, 1st generation product or not. Most of the people posting on here are whiners, the ones who are happy with their products don't post on here or just avoid the place all together. It's like going on any video game forum, you and everyone you know could be having the time of your lives playing the game but if you went to the forum you can bet there are people declaring that the developers are Satan's spawn or something.

EVERY company has QA problems, this forum just makes it looks like apple is bad because it's focused on a single companies product. Go to some laptop site forums and you'll find that everywhere you go, for the most part, 90% of posts (I made that up) in laptop forums are about issues with the product.

I got my first rMBP and it has had 0 issues and I find the battery life, weight, and screen to all be perfect for my needs. There are tons of people who have the same experience as I do, but they aren't going to post in here because places like this are like voids that will suck out any enthusiasm you might have out of you.

 

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High RPM's over here as well...

I am on my second rMBP and I am disappointed. It's a 2.7/16/768 and it runs WAY, WAY too hot. Thankfully, my RPM's aren't in the 9,000 range but they are frequently above 5,000. The area above the keyboard near where the hot air exits the fan, not to mention the AC Adapter, get so hot as to almost cause burns. There is a faint smell of "burning electronic insides" which also saddens me. I shut down daily, since waking from sleep mode sometimes causes a kernel panic. Kernel panics occasionally occurr at other times as well. I got a black screen of death after logging on last week. I am running OS 10.7.4 and I think Microsoft Outlook 2011 is frequently a CPU hog and/or has memory leaks or runaway processes or something. Also, VMware Fusion v4 may be contributing to the issue. I am running ONE virtual machine and fully-patched Outlook 2011, please don't tell me I am overloading this machine. The reason I bought it was to run MULTIPLE virtual machines and I hadn't even considered that I couldn't use Outlook I am a Windows Pro and I was hoping to escape some of the headaches. Looks like I just traded Dell/Microsoft/HP headaches for more expensive Apple headaches. Oh, I know, do a clean install of Mountain Lion. That will fix everything, right? Not like I have anything better to do that to migrate 500GB of data, and re-install the Mac OS and then re-install all my apps, preferences, license keys, etc. Yay.

 

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The hell are you talking about, EVERY single product that apple releases is 'riddled with problems' over here. I've yet to see a time where apple launched any product without half the posts on here being people complaining about QA issues, whether it be scratches or yellow screens, or dents, or things not working, 1st generation product or not. Most of the people posting on here are whiners, the ones who are happy with their products don't post on here or just avoid the place all together. It's like going on any video game forum, you and everyone you know could be having the time of your lives playing the game but if you went to the forum you can bet there are people declaring that the developers are Satan's spawn or something.

EVERY company has QA problems, this forum just makes it looks like apple is bad because it's focused on a single companies product. Go to some laptop site forums and you'll find that everywhere you go, for the most part, 90% of posts (I made that up) in laptop forums are about issues with the product.

I got my first rMBP and it has had 0 issues and I find the battery life, weight, and screen to all be perfect for my needs. There are tons of people who have the same experience as I do, but they aren't going to post in here because places like this are like voids that will suck out any enthusiasm you might have out of you.

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The hell are you talking about, EVERY single product that apple releases is 'riddled with problems' over here. I've yet to see a time where apple launched any product without half the posts on here being people complaining about QA issues, whether it be scratches or yellow screens, or dents, or things not working, 1st generation product or not. Most of the people posting on here are whiners, the ones who are happy with their products don't post on here or just avoid the place all together. It's like going on any video game forum, you and everyone you know could be having the time of your lives playing the game but if you went to the forum you can bet there are people declaring that the developers are Satan's spawn or something.

EVERY company has QA problems, this forum just makes it looks like apple is bad because it's focused on a single companies product. Go to some laptop site forums and you'll find that everywhere you go, for the most part, 90% of posts (I made that up) in laptop forums are about issues with the product.

I got my first rMBP and it has had 0 issues and I find the battery life, weight, and screen to all be perfect for my needs. There are tons of people who have the same experience as I do, but they aren't going to post in here because places like this are like voids that will suck out any enthusiasm you might have out of you.

I'm not only talking about QA issues, it's rather bad engineering or a lack of long-term-testing.

The first gen iPhone had some kind of problem with its screens where large columns of the screen permanently stopped responding to touch or some gsm chip breaking down. The latter was even so frequent that it was hard to get replacement parts. The first magsafe adapter was weirdly constructed and the cable's rubber came off at one end after a while, a problem I've seen on countless adapters of that time. Later they made a longer piece of rubber to the end of their cable to prevent that from happening. And the first-gen MacBook Air had a very problematic hinge that was first flimsy and then physically cracked and broke. Apple replaced those screens even outside of warranty and the later MacBook Airs had a much more sturdy hinge.

Don't get me wrong. With all my other Apple computers and phones I've been very happy, they're great products, far superior to what you'd get elsewhere. And I'm not even saying that it's Apple's fault, because none of those problems appeared before about one year of continuous usage and I can imagine that there's limits to long-term testing - which should be especially true if it's something no one has ever done before.

But seeing as those problems were resolved in later iterations, there's definitely some risk in buying a first-gen something from Apple. And I've not exactly been lucky.