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Yes but kaby lake is new so we must not get outdated equipment I'm my new Macbook's! I would honestly wait for Canonlake TBH. Intel has moved beyond the tic tock method and now is just optimizing after every die shrink. If we have waited basically a year and a half on an upgrade no harm in waiting 2 years and a quarter for Canonlake?

To be honest the only things in skylake worth waiting for is the better graphics with 64mb eDRAM cache in the 28w chips found in the 13 inch rMBP. Other than that it won't make a blind it of difference to most users.

Yeah if you are looking at performance increases then a better GPU in the 15 inch and TB3 if you want to run an external 5k screen, but that has very little to do with chip performance, other than that you might as well wait for canonlake.

Of course thinner, lighter, better designed machines with better screens, better wifi and Bluetooth may be worth an upgrade too but again the Intel CPU used makes no real difference other than the ease with which these things are incorporated into the design.

By all means I am keeping my 2013 rMBP until canonlake there is just no compelling reason for me to update and nothing on the Windows side is worthy of my money either.
 
Not all of us are upgrading from Haswell machines. It's been too long and Apple needs to release something now. There will always be something new around the corner, and exactly when that will be has become increasingly unreliable.


Either way the increases is minimal.... This is a first world problem and it's not a big one but only is because want cry for the newest stuff.... You can wait for kaby lake or Canonlake.... Not end of the world.
 
Either way the increases is minimal.... This is a first world problem and it's not a big one but only is because want cry for the newest stuff.... You can wait for kaby lake or Canonlake.... Not end of the world.

I have a 2010 C2D. I can't wait til Cannonlake. I doubt my laptop will be able to run 10.13. And Kaby Lake isn't worth waiting for.

All that said, I could see Apple releasing Kaby Lake MBAs in October and the 13" KL in January. It would be super weird to release the MBA and MBP at the same time with different chipsets.

The 15"...no idea what Apple will do there. But it's another reason just to go Skylake and skip Kaby.
 
Either way the increases is minimal.
For some its minimal, for others it isn't there will be other improvements, and while you dismiss the changes, it is important to others. Just saying first world problems, doesn't diminish other people's desire to get value for their money.
 
For some its minimal, for others it isn't there will be other improvements, and while you dismiss the changes, it is important to others. Just saying first world problems, doesn't diminish other people's desire to get value for their money.


What value other than bragging rights? For your facebooking and office suites? For the average Joe it's fine....
 
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I have a 2010 C2D. I can't wait til Cannonlake. I doubt my laptop will be able to run 10.13. And Kaby Lake isn't worth waiting for.

All that said, I could see Apple releasing Kaby Lake MBAs in October and the 13" KL in January. It would be super weird to release the MBA and MBP at the same time with different chipsets.

The 15"...no idea what Apple will do there. But it's another reason just to go Skylake and skip Kaby.


If you waited 6 years 6 more months won't kill you. Riding on Haswell for another year perhaps won't hurt Apple's bottom line. Guess what if you "need" a new Macbook the ones out now with broadwell or Haswell still work like a charm so you really have no excuse other than you want to have the semi latest cpu....
 
TB3, better battery life, more performance, USB-C. The list goes on.



More performance? For real life usage you won't tell a difference. USB C is a negative not a positive..... You're also assuming Apple will use TB3 which they haven't with the Macbook so far.... List goes on with who cares..... A 2015 Macbook will work just fine.
 
More performance? For real life usage you won't tell a difference. USB C is a negative not a positive..... You're also assuming Apple will use TB3 which they haven't with the Macbook so far.... List goes on with who cares..... A 2015 Macbook will work just fine.
Ok, so those are not important to you, but they can and are important to others. Just because you don't care for them, doesn't mean others don't.

One size doesn't fit all, and since you cannot understand that others may actually need a new machine and are not willing to settle on what is being offered now, I'll not continue to beat a dead horse.
 
Yes, current models work fine, but they are also a ripoff at this point.
Definitely, I just see the value in spending over 2,000 dollars for a Haswell based laptop. My opinion seems to be shared by many others, as Apple has seen a huge drop off on laptop shipments - there was a story a few months back about Apple dealing with a 40% decline in laptop shipments.
 
There's always a contingent that says "wait 9 more months for the next processor, it will be so much better." Meh. All I know is I need a faster machine now, so as long as I can get 32 GB of RAM in the next release and not get slaughtered too badly over Apple's extra premium for upgrades like this, then I am pulling the trigger the moment the order button becomes available. I guess there is one more factor...and that is Apple needs to keep decent ports available for pro users.

I've been waiting too long and I'm growing impatient. My current laptop (listed in my sig below) is showing its age and is slowing down my workflow.
 
Definitely, I just see the value in spending over 2,000 dollars for a Haswell based laptop. My opinion seems to be shared by many others, as Apple has seen a huge drop off on laptop shipments - there was a story a few months back about Apple dealing with a 40% decline in laptop shipments.
This is what has so annoyed me about Apple this year... maybe there was some issue holding up the Mac/MacBooks updates... okay that happens... but couldn't they have then dropped the price (even 10%) to make the current models a better value? Then at least you wouldn't feel like a sucker buying one today...
 
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