One Mouse Button Sucks!

Discussion in 'Windows, Linux & Others on the Mac' started by majordude, Dec 25, 2007.

  1. majordude macrumors 68020

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    I'm sure this has been asked and answered a million times (but I can't find a thread)...

    How the hell do I use XP (in Boot Camp) with just one button? How do I right click? How do I grab multiple files?
     
  2. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Tried the two finger on the touchpad right click?
     
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  4. majordude thread starter macrumors 68020

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    How do I select three of four items...

    + Item
    + Item
    - Item
    + Item

    Or delete something? The delete button doesn't delete!
     
  5. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Control handles the independent selection of items.

    Only Backspace is available on a laptop keyboard.
     
  6. odinsride macrumors 65816

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    Fn + Delete will delete
     
  7. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I tried that as well in Windows.
     
  8. Vangen macrumors newbie

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    Hey, under system preferences, you CAN enable right click. works just like... right click on 2 button mouse. what can i say apple just rocks ::eek:
     
  9. 7on macrumors 601

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    I think it's just a design flaw of windows to not be able to utilize one button mice correctly
     
  10. bjett92 macrumors 6502a

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    I agree. I would never use the second mouse button on my MacBook if there was one.
     
  11. metropolitim macrumors member

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    And I would never operate a Mac with only one button, and haven't since at least 1990.

    My favorite mice used to be by MacAlly, a pioneering maker of Mac peripherals and still one of the very best. More recently, I've come to love Microsoft mice. Say what you will about their software, but the irony is that they make better input hardware than anyone.

    Anyway, I've been using a mouse since Lisa, and I think a 1-button mouse is a colossal waste of energy, and dramatically reduces speed and frankly, power. Yes, Macs have speed and power to spare, but why not work even faster and more powerfully if you can? It's cheap and easy.

    As much as I've loved my Macs over the past 20 years, it embarrasses me to be associated with such nonsense. The fact is that Apple has moved on from limiting to control-click, with both the mighty mouse and the most elegant keypad right-click in the business.

    I'm not even counting the THREE button mouse required to use Logic.

    Now to ANSWER THE QUESTION.

    The right-click touchpad solution on the Mac side is brilliant. Really, truly magnificent. And on Windows it's a waste. The problem is that Apple has chosen not to write drivers enabling tap-to-click for Boot Camp. So depending on where your fingers are on the touchpad, you sometimes have to reposition your hand to also be able to use your thumb to click the button.

    Go get Input Remapper, a free app that lets you -- surprise, surprise -- remap your MacBook keyboard to work more like you're used to, like mapping the fn key to Control. One of the most helpful remappings: the right Apple key to right click. It may not sound like much, but try it. You'll see it's a major improvement.


    Very much like the solution on the Mac side of the boot, where command delete is usually the way to go.

    But a couple of months shy of 20 years Mac and only a couple of years Windows, and I think the delete key is one of Windows' best features. :D

    Once again, Input Remapper to the rescue. You can map a true Delete key to several different places. I've chosen the enter key near the space bar. It's especially helpful for the control-delete keystroke combo which is the VERY best thing about Windows. :D


    Input Remapper.
     
  12. majordude thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Thanks! I'll look into it this weekend.
     
  13. TychoBrahe macrumors newbie

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    Yeah, function and Delete ( or Up Down Left Right arrows ) don't work for some of us. Not sure why. I guess the keyboard hardware changed slightly on recent Macbooks and the keyboard drivers are now out of date ?

    I don't think Input Remapper works on a newer SR Macbook does it ? I think I read a post from the developer that he didn't have access to a Macbook ( only a pro ) and so was having difficulty making Input Remapper compatible with recent Macbooks. Let me know if I'm mistaken and I'll try it again. But I tried it once on my Macbook ( purchased about a month ago ) and it didn't work.

    I wrote a program in Delphi that uses a windows hook and that's working out nicely. I mapped the up and down arrow keys to Page Up and Page Down. Also mapped the left and right arrow keys to Home and End. Lastly, I mapped the backspace key to Delete. You have to press control to enable these hotkeys. Perhaps using function would make more sense, but I couldn't figure out how to detect the function key. I guess I'll just use my fix until Apple offers an update.
     
  14. majordude thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Doesn't seem to work. In fact, it doesn't seem to do anything.

    I want XP to work like OSX in terms of keystrokes. In OSX I use control+c for copy. In XP I use ctrl+c. When I have Boot Camp running I want XP to use the same keys as OSX so I don't have to remember the differences.

    Can this be done?
     
  15. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    If you change how Windows handles inputs.

    By default OS X uses Command and not Control BTW.
     
  16. majordude thread starter macrumors 68020

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    How do I change the way Windows handles inputs? (And you are right about Command).
     
  17. ayeying macrumors 601

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    To right click, put two fingers on the touchpad and click the button. Its on the apple website btw.
     
  18. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    Looks like you'll need software for that but I don't have any experience with that.
     
  19. m1ss1ontomars macrumors 6502

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    The same as always.

    Right click is two fingers on the trackpad and click, although this must be enabled somewhere (not sure where). I believe the Mighty Mouse by default can use its 2 button-ness, but I'm not sure about that either.

    As for ctrl+clicking to select multiple things, how do you normally do it? Don't you just ctrl + click? I know I do.
     

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