One-Third of U.S. High School Students Now Own an iPhone

[bettaboy123]

When I was in high school (not that long ago, I'm in college), we weren't allowed to use any electronics on campus and would get them confiscated if discovered. This appeared to be standard procedure for most schools around the country. Do most high schools and middle schools allow the use of iPads and other devices in class now?

I use my iPad in class all the time. Since we all just got netbooks for note taking and such though, I am getting asked to put it away more, especially as more teachers get iPads. As for phones, there is only two classes I cannot have my phone out all the time. They are starting to be considered a 'tool or resource' as so many of us get smartphones. Even iPod touches are allowed to be out. We are the exception though it seems. Most schools are not as technologically integrated as we are.

Also, at my school, I would say about 65% of us have smartphones. Probably about 70% of those are iPhone 4s or iPhone 4Ss, mainly white Verizon 8/16 GB. Many of us plan to get an iPhone in the near future, like me, to replace my stupid Sony Ericson Xperia Play in May or June.

My parents pay $600 a month to Verizon between five smartphones, a Xoom, and a 4G iPad. $70 is from mine after taxes and fees, only $10 for sharing minutes, $6/ person for unlimited texting ($30 for the whole plan between five people), and 2GB of data for $30. I may have to start paying for my own phone bill is this summer when I get a job, so I know exactly how much it is.

 

[Springroll]

I don't get all the criticism for "kids" having a smartphone. It really is not that expensive anymore, as I said in an earlier post I gave my daughter my old iPhone 3GS and got her a plan that costs €15 a month, for this amount she can ring and text (free surf) but when it's gone it's gone, it get's refilled every month. She can phone/text me and my wife for free as we are on the same provider. So basically she can contact her friends using either iMessage or the more expensive text for the ones in her class that do not have an iOS device.
My sisters son (he's 9) just got an iPad (all kids in his school are given an iPad for free) which the use in conjunction with ordinary school tools (pen, paper,books etc.)

We need to embrace the future people, it is not the same world as when most of us went to school, for better or worse

 

[robertjones]

These kids are lucky. I didn't get a cell phone until the latter part of my senior year of high school. The cool part about it was it did have the game 'snake' on it! Classic nokia.

I had my first phone when i was a sophomore.

 

[pmz]

Whoah, it's like I've gone back in time to 2010 again.




Do you really not understand the idea of statistical sampling?



False, false, and false. Want to try again?



Clearly the future. As evidenced by the fact that the top three smartphones are all 3.5". But, you know, other than that



Why on earth would you teach kids outdated skills like that? If they want to take art or photography classes as electives, then that's fine. But the idea of having copper etching as a core curriculum course is about as relevant as having cow milking or leather tanning as a core course.



Another person who doesn't understand the meaning of the word "monopoly"



It's not to pad your resume, it's to give you additional incentive to take the tougher courses. The school makes the case (and the correct one) that trying a tougher course, even if you get a B, is more beneficial than sandbagging in a normal course and getting the A. The extra credit point is the benefit for this. And colleges don't do something directly, but a B at a great university is definitely worth more than an A at a run-of-the-mill university. It's all about rewarding people taking the more difficult path.



Ever think that maybe not everyone went to a high school as bad as yours seems to be?

You are unbearable. Statistical sampling is almost always a complete joke, especially out of the mouth of analyst like that loser.

And your whole rant about what an A is worth here and a B is worth there is pathetic. Don't you ever open your mouth and give advice to an actual student. You have no idea what you're talking about, and should be barred from ever speaking to a child about education.

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Wirelessly posted



Most people have cell phones so costs are entirely relative.

The cost to buy an iPhone on a family plan is not 1200.

You get a 3GS for free. You are on a family plan with a 10 a month line charge. That charge exists for any phone so it is not relevant. Then you pay for data. Well you use the data and pay for it. There is no magic data rate for having another phone.

Not to mention the massive utility the device offers. So the actual cost to buy an iPhone is $0. The cost to USE on is $30 a month. The cost to use an iPhone over a dumb phone is $20 a month. Most teenagers spend much more on clothes, music and going to movies each month.

Given what you can accomplish on a smartphone $20-$30 a month is a very good deal.

Using ridiculous voodoo math to claim phones cost 1200 to buy is very 2008. Please catch up with the times. Your logic is like saying that my $150 bookcase cost me $5000 because i bought books for it.

The cost difference between an iPhone and a dumb phone over two years is $480. That is a very good value. You would have to be kind of dumb not to get it because it would probably provide you or your kid way more than $500 of value or worth over that time.

Can we please just be done with the bad cellphone math from 2007-2008?

Come back to Reality. Or just stop posting all together.

 

[bpaluzzi]

You are unbearable. Statistical sampling is almost always a complete joke, especially out of the mouth of analyst like that loser.

And your whole rant about what an A is worth here and a B is worth there is pathetic. Don't you ever open your mouth and give advice to an actual student. You have no idea what you're talking about, and should be barred from ever speaking to a child about education.

AHAHAHAHA. You're too much, sport. Care to try and form any kind of argument in your favor? Don't think you'll be able to come up with one. Go ahead though. I want to see you twist in the wind. And while you're at it, explain why statistical sampling is a "complete joke".

This should be fun. I'm literally giddy right now.

 

[Krauser]

I had an env in highschool... and I thought it was badass too... I didn't get a smartphone until college considering I didn't need all of the aspects of a smartphone (email, calendar, web, file management) in high school.

 

[devinci99]

Wow. If this is a fact, it is no wonder Apple is approaching that 1 trillion market cap.

Kids paying $299+ for mobile phones! I under know a family plan I can get 5 lines and free phones for the family, but NOT iPhones.

I got my first mobile as a College junior in 1997! and I remember just pre-iphone days were $600 phones were considered LUXURY. I know I got the Nokia 8800 back then and I thought that was pretty high end (but not quite as high as the Vertu). And I got it because I knew not many people would have one consider the price tag! Heck, even $349 were consider expensive!

Fast forward to 2012, people are willing paying this price everywhere!

That is amazing! Kids spending money where 5 years ago is consider something only "richer" folks can afford.

 

[TripD]

iPhones at school

An iPhone is an expensive bit of kit. Do they take it to school?

I teach at an "at-risk" high school and more than a third of my student have iphones and many of them live under the poverty line.

 

[AppLCII]

Those kids better stay off my lawn!
It is a sad statistic. The world is going to hell. Thanks Steve.

 

[marksman]

The reason the GPA boosts are offered is because the classes are college-level. It's insulting to insinuate that I'm far behind, as I am 17 and taking college chemistry, calculus, and literature courses. I will be able to get my pre-med undergrad in three years by the time I graduate high school.






It's not "bad cellphone math." It's the actual cost of a two-year contract. Even with a "free" phone, you still end up paying ~$80 each month for a smartphone, which adds up to about $1920+fees and taxes. Even on a family plan, the cost easily reaches $1200.

I don't see how that is inaccurate.

Because those are not the costs to own an iPhone. You will have to wait for college to take a class in logic I guess.

It is bad math. It is an uneducated assessment of cell phone costs and usage. I explained very clearly why in my post. Perhaps reading comprehension will also have to wait until college.

I don't say my real cost of my computer is $25,000 because I pay monthly fees to 25 different porn sites.

Also the 1200 number is completely bogus. There is no way to get there on a family plan.

This bad cell phone math has been circulating since you started middle school. You likely read it and accepted it without questioning it. You will improve your critical thinking skills with time.

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You are unbearable. Statistical sampling is almost always a complete joke, especially out of the mouth of analyst like that loser.

And your whole rant about what an A is worth here and a B is worth there is pathetic. Don't you ever open your mouth and give advice to an actual student. You have no idea what you're talking about, and should be barred from ever speaking to a child about education.

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Come back to Reality. Or just stop posting all together.

Wow you make some horrible arguments and then defend them with these comments.

Good failure.

 

[iMikeT]

Pfft....Mac LC here

I'm not sure they're lucky. They will always take computers for granted. They'll never experience the magic of an Apple II for the first time.

Ok you guys win.

Then again, I'm sure there's someone out there that can one up both of you guys and say something like an Altair 8800 or even better, a mainframe.

 

[3dflyboy1]

Because those are not the costs to own an iPhone. You will have to wait for college to take a class in logic I guess.

It is bad math. It is an uneducated assessment of cell phone costs and usage. I explained very clearly why in my post. Perhaps reading comprehension will also have to wait until college.

I don't say my real cost of my computer is $25,000 because I pay monthly fees to 25 different porn sites.

Also the 1200 number is completely bogus. There is no way to get there on a family plan.

This bad cell phone math has been circulating since you started middle school. You likely read it and accepted it without questioning it. You will improve your critical thinking skills with time.

Your computer analogy is faulty, as it does not involve the same contractual payments.

Google is your friend. I suggest you research some more (if at all) before coming here and flaunting your ignorance.

http://bit.ly/HlqHTO
http://bit.ly/Hlrc08

 

[rwehtr]

These children are lucky. I have no cell phone, until my high school last year and a half after the part. The cool part about it, it does have the game snake! Nokia classic

I quite agree to her said, now of the child is really too happy

 

[appsforkids]

Seems like more kids also favor the mac today as well, this surprised me at first because 1/3 is a big number, but I don't think it's a fad pop thing, I think they really appreciate the design and quality of the device and iOS.

 

[plumone613]

Question?

I am not surprised. I see high schoolers with iPhones and iPads all the time. Also, what apps are pictured in the body of the article. I would really love to know just for my own curriosity.

Thanks.

 

[Konrad]

How many of those kids have seen the pyramids in Egypt, or have dedicated at least one semester abroad to learn another language? While in Morocco, your iPhone will be just useless....

 

[marksman]

Your computer analogy is faulty, as it does not involve the same contractual payments.

Google is your friend. I suggest you research some more (if at all) before coming here and flaunting your ignorance.

http://bit.ly/HlqHTO
http://bit.ly/Hlrc08

Unlike you I have done the math. You can not attribute cost to multiple places. If your made up voodoo math claims a phone is 1200 (which again is not an accurate number for any kind of basic package with an added line) then it means you got free voice and data access for two years.

If you actually apply the real cost of the phone you end up seeing kids on family plans would be spending around $13 a month for their voice and data. I don't need to google anything to do a very basic cost analysis. I realize your opinion is not yours but simply one you read somewhere and co-opted so you have zero chance of defending it.

Feel free to make the ridiculous argument that people who buy iPhones don't also normally use voice and data. By the way you can buy a device off contract if you like. Feel free to use that for the cost of the phone as that is how much the phone costs. Now simply take that number and subtract it from how much you paid for the phone under contract. Divide this number by 24 and then subtract it from the $30 you spend for an additional line and data. That gives you the real cost of the phone as well as the real cost of voice and data service.

It is a good idea not to enter debates on topics you did not think through but instead blindly copied from someone else. The $1200 cost is simply nonsense made up by someone who has no business doing any sort of financial planning or forecasting. I suspect balancing a check book might be too much.

 

[3dflyboy1]

Unlike you I have done the math. You can not attribute cost to multiple places. If your made up voodoo math claims a phone is 1200 (which again is not an accurate number for any kind of basic package with an added line) then it means you got free voice and data access for two years.

If you actually apply the real cost of the phone you end up seeing kids on family plans would be spending around $13 a month for their voice and data. I don't need to google anything to do a very basic cost analysis. I realize your opinion is not yours but simply one you read somewhere and co-opted so you have zero chance of defending it.

Feel free to make the ridiculous argument that people who buy iPhones don't also normally use voice and data. By the way you can buy a device off contract if you like. Feel free to use that for the cost of the phone as that is how much the phone costs. Now simply take that number and subtract it from how much you paid for the phone under contract. Divide this number by 24 and then subtract it from the $30 you spend for an additional line and data. That gives you the real cost of the phone as well as the real cost of voice and data service.

It is a good idea not to enter debates on topics you did not think through but instead blindly copied from someone else. The $1200 cost is simply nonsense made up by someone who has no business doing any sort of financial planning or forecasting. I suspect balancing a check book might be too much.

You're talking about off-contract. I was specifically referring to a two-year contract for a smartphone. There is a minimum cost of $20 per month JUST for data. And considering each carrier's marketing, most people will opt for the next tier.

If you would like to add up the numbers, you will see that the cost really is in the $1200 ballpark. $720 for 24 months of data, $360 for voice and text, then slap on taxes and fees. Voila! "voodoo" math!

You're taking this whole thing way too seriously. And please stop with the insults. I do my own math.

Since tone cannot be conveyed via text, I should say that I don't intend this to be scathing/derogatory in any way.

 

[marksman]

You're talking about off-contract. I was specifically referring to a two-year contract for a smartphone. There is a minimum cost of $20 per month JUST for data. And considering each carrier's marketing, most people will opt for the next tier.

If you would like to add up the numbers, you will see that the cost really is in the $1200 ballpark. $720 for 24 months of data, $360 for voice and text, then slap on taxes and fees. Voila! "voodoo" math!

You're taking this whole thing way too seriously. And please stop with the insults. I do my own math.

Since tone cannot be conveyed via text, I should say that I don't intend this to be scathing/derogatory in any way.

Why are you attributing voice and data costs to the phone?

If you choose that path it means you get voice and data for free for 24 months.

I am not talking about off contract pricing as there is no such thing.

It only costs 480 for 24 months of data not 720.

I am tired of seeing this horrible logic and math attached to smartphone ownership.

If you want to claim it costs $1000 (only 1200 if you make stuff up) then that means you got 24 months of data and voice for free.

If you want to factor in the real cost of the phone then you get voice and data for $13 a month.

You can not selectively just decide to charge the same costs to multiple line items thus being completely in accurate. You actually have to account for everything you are getting for your payments.

If you did the math yourself you did it exactly wrong like the people did five years ago.

You still can't even defend a 1200 total price tag for a normal family plan purchase. The number is not based in reality.

So either you pay nothing for the phone and spend 30 a month voice and data,

You spend 1000 on the phone and get voice and data for free

Or you spend 700 on the phone and spen 13 dollars a month on voice and data

Those are the real breakdowns. Stop misleading people with your bad logic. I don't just mean you I mean every silly person who has posted this nonsense over the last five years.

It is like saying you 25k car costs 80k because you have to put gas in it. People make this dumb posts thinking the enlightening people but they are just misleading and confusing them.

These days most people are already on cell phone plans so the additive cost is less. You can get a iPhone for free and pay $20 a month for data. That means your total additive cost to get an iPhone is 480 over two years which includes data. Not a bad deal at all.

So instead of lying to people telling them their phone will cost them 1200 tell them the truth that if they choose properly they can get a top notch smart phone experience for only $480 paid out over 24 months

 

[japasneezemonk]

Why on earth would you teach kids outdated skills like that? If they want to take art or photography classes as electives, then that's fine. But the idea of having copper etching as a core curriculum course is about as relevant as having cow milking or leather tanning as a core course.

Can you please enlighten me as to what is so outdated about etching on copper? It's just another medium that is used by artists all over the world to express themselves today. If you're an artist you don't limit yourself to just drawing on paper and then jumping on to some adobe software on your mac? is that what you think?

I never said a kid should take these classes as their core courses while in school. That would be foolish, especially if they are already in their late teens. If you want your kids to learn wether they enjoy etching, photography, figure drawing, water color painting, oil painting, etc... Then you go to your local art school/university or museum offering fine art classes and you sign them up for a couple weekend classes per year. They'll figure it out. They then choose to keep taking the classes or they decide it's not for them. It's not the fact that they either decide to become artists that is important, it's the fact that they had a choice. they learned about new ways to look at the world and have a fresh perspective on how they judge and solve problems.

One aspect that i do agree with you is that If you're already in college and have never taken any type or art or music classes then it's already too late. Unless you happen to be a prodigy, by the time you're 18-20 the way to view the world has already been set in stone in many ways, learning to play an instrument very well or learn a new artistic technique becomes very difficult.

How is milking a cow outdated? Do we not have cows in the world anymore? Obviously the dairy industry has for the most part made milking cows a specialized skill. However, cows are being milked everyday, wether it be by hand or by machine. Just because you don't have a cow in your backyard doesn't mean they suddenly ceased to exist.

Tanning leather is not as irrelevant as you judge it to be. If you happen to wear Aldens, Allen Edmonds, Carmina's, George Cleverly's or Trickers you well know that these shoes are not cheap. The Chicago Horween Tannery is famous for their Chromexcel and Cordovan leather. A pair of Aldens made with Cordovan leather from the Horween Tannery will cost you about $700 dollars, not a bad business to be in right now. The fact that most people tend to buy cheap plastic soled shoes in the 50-200 dollar range doesn't seem to affect these shoe manufacturers.

 

[jyaky124]

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