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vahdyx

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Hey all,

I know this is an odd question for an apple forum but I am at a fork in the road and I can't decide what to do.

I have an iPhone 6 love it but iOS kind of bothers me with some stuff.

My history of phones; iPhone 6, LG G3, Nexus 5, Galaxy S5, HTC M8, Xperia Z1S, Note 3, etc. Then before that was an iPhone 5, then a bunch more Android phones then the iPhone 4. And so on.

Typically I skip the "s" model iPhones and get a bunch of Android phones for that year and get an iPhone for a year.

I'm no fanboy I like both and hate both.

iOS for obvious reasons like apps, security, uniformity, iMessage, compatibility, and accessories. But I like android for customizability, freedom, features, and typically there's that special something with Android phones like high res screen, outrageous camera pixels, boom speakers, etc. but unfortunately those high marks come with a low mark.

I feel like iPhone is a total package with more mid to highs than Androids low to high. If that makes any sense.

Anyway I have a OnePlus One coming I've been waiting for an invite for months and of course right before I get the iPhone 6 I get one and had the iPhone 6 on preorder. Couldn't cancel either.

Now I'm in the state of refuse the package for a refund or return the iPhone for a refund. Keep both well that's not logical for me. I'd have to switch SIM cards and call to activate when I need to switch.

About 80% of my friends like iPhone and the other Android. iMessage is awesome and Android L seems like the push android needs with its 3 app design to be compatible with all Android shapes and sizes and over 7000 APIs. However how long before that's implemented and can be used on all phones is the question. That's the thing with Android. Just because it's there doesn't mean the user will see it. Could take months even years. I guess if Google keeps the API associated with Google Play services then yeah every phone regardless of OS version can see it. But that's speculation at this point.

Anyway thoughts. I can keep going but I don't wanna write a book. This has been on my mind for the last few days and it's kind of pathetic.

But help is appreciated.
 

jlake02

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I think you know what direction the people on MACRumors are going to lean. ;)

iPhone FTW.



:apple:
 

Thunder82

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Get the iPhone 6.

Nice, insightful, and quite helpful reply. Bravo.

On a serious note. I totally agree that the decision is difficult. Both have a ton of pros and cons and I find myself switching between devices constantly as well. I have a 6+ currently and am really enjoying it. Comparing the normal 6 to a OnePlus is a different ballgame though. Given your previous device list (G3 & Note) it seems you tend to lean towards bigger devices. Something tells me you might be happier with the OnePlus - which is definitely the android phone to own right now. Playing with all of the L ROMs would be a lot of fun.
 

vahdyx

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I think you know what direction the people on MACRumors are going to lean. ;)



iPhone FTW.







:apple:



Haha I know but I figured if I ask both the Android guys and iOS folks they'll give me some comparison material that I may have not thought of.

Confucius said something along the lines of, "Those that sit on the fence can't enjoy either yard" and that's me at the moment. I'm on the fence and it sucks. Kind of pokey too haha.
 

CallOfDuty

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Get the iPhone 6. The camera on the iPhone is way better than that of the Oneplus one. Touch ID is a great addition too.
For android, the only key advantage you really get is customization. And Apple has sort of made customizing the iPhone a little bit better in iOS 8. However, most android users will find themselves NOT bothering with customizing their phones in the long run and use their phones for apps and all which the iPhone greatly excells in. If im not mistaken my co-workers at work with android phones tinker with their new phone for a few days before forgetting all about it and just use it for apps.
 

Koziakauzu

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If android os doesn't bother you, there is quite a lot of nice looking and powerful android devices. I switched to android for my beloved Xperia Z1 for a year but the OS and apps behaviors made me switch back.
 

LSUtigers03

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I looked at getting a OPO to go along with my iPhone. The OPO is a great phone at an incredible price. The only thing that keeps me from pulling the trigger is the Nexus 6. I'm trying to hold out for that as my next Android device but you won't go wrong with the OPO if you want to go Android.

ETA: Also you may want to move this topic to the iOS alternatives forum. You'll get more informed responses there.
 

lyceumHQ

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Get the iPhone 6. The camera on the iPhone is way better than that of the Oneplus one. Touch ID is a great addition too.
For android, the only key advantage you really get is customization. And Apple has sort of made customizing the iPhone a little bit better in iOS 8. However, most android users will find themselves NOT bothering with customizing their phones in the long run and use their phones for apps and all which the iPhone greatly excells in. If im not mistaken my co-workers at work with android phones tinker with their new phone for a few days before forgetting all about it and just use it for apps.

What customisation options have Apple added to iOS 8?

Genuine question. Haven't updated my 5 yet since there's no jailbreak available but customisation is a big reason why I jailbreak (themes. Icon placement. Removal of the icon and folder names etc) and if there's more customisation in iOS 8 then it may negate me wanting to jailbreak.
 

vahdyx

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OnePlus One or iPhone 6

What customisation options have Apple added to iOS 8?



Genuine question. Haven't updated my 5 yet since there's no jailbreak available but customisation is a big reason why I jailbreak (themes. Icon placement. Removal of the icon and folder names etc) and if there's more customisation in iOS 8 then it may negate me wanting to jailbreak.


Just third party keyboards and super notifications (aka widgets) but I think that's it.

I think Android is more than just customizing though. There's some functionality too, but yeah I do think that's its main advantage. Whether its something you customized or something a manufacturer does, with add one like smart screen, split screen apps, the Notes pen features etc., they're extensions of Android by customization.

However at its core there's some goodies, it's mainly Android L that has me interested. It uses a new runtime that promises 60 FPS and better development environment for developers.

I do appreciate the opinions and insight from everyone.
 

lyceumHQ

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Just third party keyboards and super notifications (aka widgets) but I think that's it.

I think Android is more than just customizing though. There's some functionality too, but yeah I do think that's its main advantage. Whether its something you customized or something a manufacturer does, with add one like smart screen, split screen apps, the Notes pen features etc., they're extensions of Android by customization.

However at its core there's some goodies, it's mainly Android L that has me interested. It uses a new runtime that promises 60 FPS and better development environment for developers.

I do appreciate the opinions and insight from everyone.

Ah

I got excited for a minute there haha.

I'm thinking of moving to android myself. Not that I don't love my iPhone. But it's upgrade time. I've had a 5 for two years now and want something new. But don't do big phones. So the 6 is a no go for me.

The oneplus one looks like an incredible phone. Too big for me sadly.

I'm also getting rid of my iPad and getting and android tab. I mainly use my iPad for moviebox and XBMC and am sick of having to rely on the availability of a jailbreak for these. If my iPad messes up for any reason and I have to restore whilst there's no jailbreak available then my iPad is rendered useless for my needs until the jailbreak is out. It seems daft to keep it when I have no such restrictions with an android tab.

But I love iOS. I love owning an iPhone. And will be sad to leave the Apple Eco system.
 

wi1dstar

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Sep 18, 2012
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Hey all,

I know this is an odd question for an apple forum but I am at a fork in the road and I can't decide what to do.

I have an iPhone 6 love it but iOS kind of bothers me with some stuff.

My history of phones; iPhone 6, LG G3, Nexus 5, Galaxy S5, HTC M8, Xperia Z1S, Note 3, etc. Then before that was an iPhone 5, then a bunch more Android phones then the iPhone 4. And so on.

Typically I skip the "s" model iPhones and get a bunch of Android phones for that year and get an iPhone for a year.

I'm no fanboy I like both and hate both.

iOS for obvious reasons like apps, security, uniformity, iMessage, compatibility, and accessories. But I like android for customizability, freedom, features, and typically there's that special something with Android phones like high res screen, outrageous camera pixels, boom speakers, etc. but unfortunately those high marks come with a low mark.

I feel like iPhone is a total package with more mid to highs than Androids low to high. If that makes any sense.

Anyway I have a OnePlus One coming I've been waiting for an invite for months and of course right before I get the iPhone 6 I get one and had the iPhone 6 on preorder. Couldn't cancel either.

Now I'm in the state of refuse the package for a refund or return the iPhone for a refund. Keep both well that's not logical for me. I'd have to switch SIM cards and call to activate when I need to switch.

About 80% of my friends like iPhone and the other Android. iMessage is awesome and Android L seems like the push android needs with its 3 app design to be compatible with all Android shapes and sizes and over 7000 APIs. However how long before that's implemented and can be used on all phones is the question. That's the thing with Android. Just because it's there doesn't mean the user will see it. Could take months even years. I guess if Google keeps the API associated with Google Play services then yeah every phone regardless of OS version can see it. But that's speculation at this point.

Anyway thoughts. I can keep going but I don't wanna write a book. This has been on my mind for the last few days and it's kind of pathetic.

But help is appreciated.

I don't chime in much but most people that will probably be involved in this discussion probably do not have both phones. My wife and I have been using the OPO since it was launched (one of the lucky few to get an invite right away). This is not my first android phone but it was my wife's first. I have had every iPhone and most of the top end android phones. That being said, my wife had loved the OPO. In this argument, you really can't get caught up in the android vs iOS battle, as most above have. Phone to phone wise, the OPO is an extremely nice phone. It had a better shape than the new iPhone, rounded in the corners versus all the edges which makes it easier to hold. I have found the pictures taken with the camera on the OPO to be FAR superior to any pictures I've been able to take on any iPhone (including our 6+). The tap to turn on the screen is a very nice feature that has me tapping on my ipad and iPhone constantly. The build quality is very nice, strong but not loud vibration on silent mode. The sound quality is very nice, especially after the latest update. Overall, I've never been as impressed with an android phone, and it has been the only phone to date to make me second guess getting another iPhone.

Now to the negatives. We have decided to sell our OPOs for just the iPhones because of a few factors. The main one is the software. Android is completely, 100% more customizable than iOS. Period. It was designed for that sole purpose. But along with that comes the bugs, the crashing, the lag when opening certain apps, etc. Android is just not as polished than iOS. The architecture of apple products is a downside as well. We have Mac computers and iPads, it's a big deal to be able to send messages to and from all devices. The front video conferencing camera on the OPO isn't great, and that is not changeable by any software update to the phone. This is a huge downside for us as I travel a great deal.

Overall, I don't think you can go wrong with either phone. As of right now, they are the best two phones out there and the price of the OPO makes it very hard to pass up, if you can get an invite. It really comes down to whether you like android or iOS better, and what architecture you plan on following more in your life (chrome laptop/ Mac laptop; android watch/iOS watch; etc).

Let me know if you have any more questions about either device.
 

vahdyx

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I don't chime in much but most people that will probably be involved in this discussion probably do not have both phones. My wife and I have been using the OPO since it was launched (one of the lucky few to get an invite right away). This is not my first android phone but it was my wife's first. I have had every iPhone and most of the top end android phones. That being said, my wife had loved the OPO. In this argument, you really can't get caught up in the android vs iOS battle, as most above have. Phone to phone wise, the OPO is an extremely nice phone. It had a better shape than the new iPhone, rounded in the corners versus all the edges which makes it easier to hold. I have found the pictures taken with the camera on the OPO to be FAR superior to any pictures I've been able to take on any iPhone (including our 6+). The tap to turn on the screen is a very nice feature that has me tapping on my ipad and iPhone constantly. The build quality is very nice, strong but not loud vibration on silent mode. The sound quality is very nice, especially after the latest update. Overall, I've never been as impressed with an android phone, and it has been the only phone to date to make me second guess getting another iPhone.



Now to the negatives. We have decided to sell our OPOs for just the iPhones because of a few factors. The main one is the software. Android is completely, 100% more customizable than iOS. Period. It was designed for that sole purpose. But along with that comes the bugs, the crashing, the lag when opening certain apps, etc. Android is just not as polished than iOS. The architecture of apple products is a downside as well. We have Mac computers and iPads, it's a big deal to be able to send messages to and from all devices. The front video conferencing camera on the OPO isn't great, and that is not changeable by any software update to the phone. This is a huge downside for us as I travel a great deal.



Overall, I don't think you can go wrong with either phone. As of right now, they are the best two phones out there and the price of the OPO makes it very hard to pass up, if you can get an invite. It really comes down to whether you like android or iOS better, and what architecture you plan on following more in your life (chrome laptop/ Mac laptop; android watch/iOS watch; etc).



Let me know if you have any more questions about either device.


Thanks for your expertise, I do have some questions, can you tell me what you think of Android L? The OPO promised it being available with in 90 days of release. Google stated the OS will operate at 60 FPS and create less junk files with the new 64bit compatible and more efficient runtime called ART.

Is this something I should gamble on? I do love how fluid and seamless iOS is. I don't like being forced to use Apple Mail to send my buddy a car listing from Autotrader or having to use Safari when I use Chrome on my desktop. So if I'm browsing something on my phone and wanna continue on my desktop I have to copy and paste the link into chrome then wait for that to sync then I can continue to use it on my PC.

Not a big deal but it's nice to be able to have less steps to accomplish this. If I had a Mac then no big deal I'm assuming.

I guess choose what I know is good or bet on the promise that Google has made.
 

wi1dstar

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Sep 18, 2012
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Thanks for your expertise, I do have some questions, can you tell me what you think of Android L? The OPO promised it being available with in 90 days of release. Google stated the OS will operate at 60 FPS and create less junk files with the new 64bit compatible and more efficient runtime called ART.

Is this something I should gamble on? I do love how fluid and seamless iOS is. I don't like being forced to use Apple Mail to send my buddy a car listing from Autotrader or having to use Safari when I use Chrome on my desktop. So if I'm browsing something on my phone and wanna continue on my desktop I have to copy and paste the link into chrome then wait for that to sync then I can continue to use it on my PC.

Not a big deal but it's nice to be able to have less steps to accomplish this. If I had a Mac then no big deal I'm assuming.

I guess choose what I know is good or bet on the promise that Google has made.

I am currently running the preview version of L on my rooted OPO (which was the easiest phone I've ever rooted/jail broken) and it is much improved over the current android os. It does take a little bit to get used to, but it really is completely integrated into your life (constantly updates how long it will take you to get home, etc). The new buttons and controls are a little different so it takes some getting used to, but it really has been updated nicely. The OPO will also record video at 4k. I would suggest trying the OPO out because you can also pop it on ebay and at least get what you paid for it.
 

TechnicallyTee

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I actually run both phones on two different lines (Yea I know its overkill) but if I had to choose one I would choose the iPhone just because of the bugs that are present with the OPO.

Don't get me wrong I do love the OPO but there are constant bugs that have not been addressed with the latest OTA's for the OPO. You will lucky first to get a device that has the yellow band issues as the majority of them do. I have had two OPOs and the first had the yellow band issue and now the one I have now that I use does not. All depends on the production date. Also the OPO mic is very weak and you can barely hear someone when you are on the phone with them, and in a noisy enviroment you can forget it. There are also other bugs that people report but these two are the main ones.

I chose to get the iPhone because I also love the iOS simplicity, its optimization, its more details when it comes to apps and just flat out, it works. The camera is far more superior when it comes to the iPhone compared to the OPO. I actually did a camera test a few nights ago the iPhone pics were beautiful and the OPO didnt take bad pictures, they were just noisy and the iPhone camera provided sharper pics.

Overall it all depends on what you want to use and the size phone you want. Also another deciding factor for me was if the OPO was to mess up and have defects, the RMA process in order to get a new phone is just too strenuous and too much of a hassle, where I know I can get another iPhone or possibly get it fixed. You have to weigh many options regarding this decision. Yeah Android L is around the way and CyanogenMod has confirmed that the OPO will get it in 90 days, doesnt outweigh the constant bugs that the device has that have not been resolved since launch day.
 

vahdyx

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OnePlus One or iPhone 6

Okay after some long and hard thinking I decided to keep the iPhone and return the OnePlus One. It was kind of a tough call but it ended making the call in favor of iOS. I figured I can enjoy iOS and when an Android phone comes out that's a must have I can decide then. The One Plus is kind of an impulse buy.

Thanks everyone for your invaluable assistance and opinions. It helped more than you know.
 

LostSoul80

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vahdyx

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Haha well I did go to other forums as well. Android as well as some others. I even asked my VW group lol.

I did get the most non biased opinions here though believe it or not. It seemed like the users here are an accepting group for the other group.

It seems like you guys are more accepting of Android than the Android users are of iOS.
 

Truthfulie

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The question should really be "Android or iOS?" I would've said iOS over Android any day few years ago, but as you surely know the Android have come long way since then. Android L looks very promising and I am excited about it as much as I am excited about iPhone and iOS. Since you went out to your way to get invite and order One and you seem like you don't have any bias nor a fanboy to either platform. Why not try it out? If you like it then keep it. iPhone 6 has bigger screen but it's still the same iOS experience and I mean that in a good way. If you don't like Android, there is always iOS to return to. Besides, One isn't so easy to get or come by. It'd be foolish to not try it out!
 

Kariya

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If you want the all-rounder from phone to ecosystem to customer support get the 6.

If you want a great price to value ratio keep the Oneplus. Just make sure to recognise the fact that you will NOT get any after-sales support. NONE. You'll be on your own if any problems occur.

But at least you'd have paid a fraction of the regular cost. So there's that...
 

temna

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Well, I have a OnePlus One. I personally do not like Android, it feels too cobbled together, like Soviet era tech. Anyone want my OPO?
 
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