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Do you think many people would pay that? I doubt it. Earning $7 per month from 10 million gamers is much better than $300 per month from half a million..

Er... you do realise the point I was making don't you?
 
And yet another sign that dedicated consoles will not last in the mainstream for much longer.

It's fun to make broad generalizations without letting the facts get in the way.

I'm going to throw the facts in your way.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/03/04/ps4-sales-top-6-million-worldwide/

The PS4 just topped 6 million units in sales. This console is outpacing all previous Sony consoles in the same timeframe. If anything, dedicated consoles are growing in popularity.
 
I'm pretty sure there won't be an xbox two or a playstation 5, at least not in the form we know them as.

Everything will eventually move to the cloud. Cable lines are very powerful and if you eliminate TV signals on them they will support gigabit speeds for everyone.

Its just a money game and thats why Onlive has received little attention from publishers because they know Microsoft/Sony pays more...

Even Apple denied Onlive on iOS... Which is stupid.
 
What a shame, such a phenomenal idea and implementation.

I wouldn't say so. Input lag prevents it from being on par with regular gaming, and also as this highlights you don't actually own anything should the service go down. It's nice to publishers who can keep their hand in your wallet, not to customers.

The best solution to have your games playable on a range of devices is one we're starting to see hatch; in-home streaming. Steam, Playstation 4 and some 3rd party devices like nVidia Shield do this.
 
I wouldn't say so. Input lag prevents it from being on par with regular gaming, and also as this highlights you don't actually own anything should the service go down. It's nice to publishers who can keep their hand in your wallet, not to customers.

The best solution to have your games playable on a range of devices is one we're starting to see hatch; in-home streaming. Steam, Playstation 4 and some 3rd party devices like nVidia Shield do this.

I was very impressed with how little input lag there was, although maybe this got worse as most of my experience is before the company was eaten up. In home streaming never solved the issue of having your games on the road on a less capable machine. Yeah I've tried the Hamachi WAN stream on steam and it sucks, which makes sense since it's a hack.

Of course some of these companies just have to be working on WAN streaming, playing your game remotely on a simple PC is huge. Personally I think this should just be an addon cost to buying a game. So if I buy a PS4 game then for an extra $10 I could remotely stream it anywhere. Sony would collect the money and distribute it where it needed to go.
 
I'm glad to hear it isn't dead, this could also be very interesting for Steam Machines with regards to accessing Windows only titles, assuming they can get the technology to work reliably enough this time.

Valve already has something very much like that, though it streams from your computer to another device across your own network.

Even there, it can be somewhat of a laggy experience.
 
Valve already has something very much like that, though it streams from your computer to another device across your own network.

Even there, it can be somewhat of a laggy experience.

Steam has this as well, and it works very well. But only over LAN, not WAN. I think streaming over WAN will be much more popular, if you are at home you would probably just sit down at your PC anyhow.
 
Steam has this as well, and it works very well. But only over LAN, not WAN. I think streaming over WAN will be much more popular, if you are at home you would probably just sit down at your PC anyhow.

I dunno. I don't ever see this taking off, at least not to the point it becomes the preferred way to play games. With 4k gaming coming up on the PC, it'd take a huge, HUGE amount of bandwidth to stream at the same quality that a soon to be mid-grade computer will be able to do without breaking a sweat.

I'll never say never, because you never know what the future will hold. But for now at least, it doesn't seem to hold much promise for being the next big thing.
 
I dunno. I don't ever see this taking off, at least not to the point it becomes the preferred way to play games. With 4k gaming coming up on the PC, it'd take a huge, HUGE amount of bandwidth to stream at the same quality that a soon to be mid-grade computer will be able to do without breaking a sweat.

I'll never say never, because you never know what the future will hold. But for now at least, it doesn't seem to hold much promise for being the next big thing.

True, 4k will be a huge data hog. But 4k on a travel laptop or tablet is useless, well at least until 4k tablets come out. I'm not sure how it works, but I'm sure there is a way to stream at a lower resolution, or there may be some kind of compression. But yeah, data is the bottleneck, especially the cost of it.
 
True, 4k will be a huge data hog. But 4k on a travel laptop or tablet is useless, well at least until 4k tablets come out. I'm not sure how it works, but I'm sure there is a way to stream at a lower resolution, or there may be some kind of compression. But yeah, data is the bottleneck, especially the cost of it.

Bandwidth is probably the one thing that'll keep this from growing. Right now, there are many, many places across the country where the best connection available to people is a measly 5Mbps DSL connection. They wouldn't be able to stream games at a decent quality. Nowhere near the level their current gen $400 console that's currently hooked to their TV will be able to. On top of that, to maintain the same quality of gameplay, you'll need a connection that's not only fast, but has incredibly low latency. Unless they're playing a bunch of puzzle or strategy games, their connection won't be able to send and receive all the split second actions that are being performed ingame without some lag.

Yeah, you could probably compress the video quality to save a bit of bandwidth, but there's only so much you can do beyond that to strip things down enough to reach those low end connection folks. Without being able to reach everyone, it just won't succeed.
 
Just resurrected my old account, it's free until they close down. Man what a shame, the gameplay is nice and smooth and looks great. Hopefully someone will continue this idea.
 
Bandwidth is probably the one thing that'll keep this from growing. Right now, there are many, many places across the country where the best connection available to people is a measly 5Mbps DSL connection. They wouldn't be able to stream games at a decent quality. Nowhere near the level their current gen $400 console that's currently hooked to their TV will be able to. On top of that, to maintain the same quality of gameplay, you'll need a connection that's not only fast, but has incredibly low latency. Unless they're playing a bunch of puzzle or strategy games, their connection won't be able to send and receive all the split second actions that are being performed ingame without some lag.

Yeah, you could probably compress the video quality to save a bit of bandwidth, but there's only so much you can do beyond that to strip things down enough to reach those low end connection folks. Without being able to reach everyone, it just won't succeed.

Well Sony does this now with its PlayStation Now service. You can stream games from them onto your PS. http://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/psnow/subscriptions/ I couldn't see them doing this if it wasn't profitable.
 
So if I buy a PS4 game then for an extra $10 I could remotely stream it anywhere. Sony would collect the money and distribute it where it needed to go.

I always imagined that's how Playstation Now would work. (funnily enough one of my games was one of the first PS Now games, but the service isn't available in my country so I can't even try it out!)
Sell another "gold package" on top of PS Plus and this lets you stream any digitally-purchased games to any of your PS devices. It just seems so logical to me, rather than re-selling them.
 
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