Only Windows XP on my MacBook

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  1. accountant macrumors newbie

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    Greetings everyone,

    I'm looking for best solution to drop down my current Mac OS X and install fresh Windows XP. The deal is I'm not looking for any parallel setup - I need only Win XP.

    I'm on MacBook MB061: it's Intel C2D 2Ghz and 1GB of RAM.

    How should I do it correctly (to have all devices, drivers working on windows platform)?

    Step-By-Step help will really be appreciated. And as I said - for some case now I need only Win XP on this machine.

    Thanks in advance. ;)
     
  2. Consultant macrumors G5

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    That can be done, but doesn't mean you should. Search the thread, this has been answered before.

    Certain updates, such as firmware update, can only be applied in OS X, so you SHOULD keep a partition with OS X.

    You'll find OS X much better for multi-tasking. You can even run XP within OS X via VMWare, Parallels, (and some windows programs work with CrossOver).
     
  3. JNB macrumors 604

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    Agree with Consultant here, Mac hardware shouldn't be used without the Mac OS as a rule. If you truly need just Windows (and specifically want to avoid the Mac OS), then just get a ThinkPad, you'll really be better off in that scenario.

    I have to "do" Windows (enterprise transaction apps, db's, & other things) as a major part of my professional life (and all done from a VM), but still prefer working from the Mac side for all my personal stuff and the majority of work--clients & coworkers are amazed at the range of capabilities the Mac has in a presumed Windows-only world. They tend to get extremely jealous when I do presentations. ;) I don't even need Windows to Remote Desktop into client sites around North America, MS's RDC for Mac is a wonderful tool.

    At the very least, maintain a 5GB or so Mac OS partition for system updates & the like.
     
  4. iMpathetic macrumors 68030

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    Is there a specific reason why you can't have an OS X partition on there?
     
  5. CWallace macrumors 603

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    Firmware updates are only available via OS X.

    My friend bought a MacBook because he loves the form factor, but he hates OS X so he keeps a minimal OS X installation on it and runs Windows XP as his daily OS.
     
  6. accountant thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Ok, i do agree with using BootCamp - holding both OS on.

    Now, what BootCamp version should I get if I have now Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) and I want to use Win XP Pro with SP3?
     
  7. TheMacBookPro macrumors 68020

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    Sorry. Tiger is no longer supported for Boot Camp, and now, using Boot Camp (w/o violating the EULA) requires Leopard. Your best bet is VMWare or Parallels.

    PS Correct me if I'm wrong :rolleyes:
     
  8. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    AFAIK, you can still legally use Bootcamp with Tiger.

    Just set the system clock back to before October 1st, 2007.

    IIRC, there is a document on the Apple web site reference this solution.
     
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  10. sushi Moderator emeritus

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    Why what? :confused:
     
  11. mithrilfox macrumors regular

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    If you already have Windows installed, you can legally leave it going on a Tiger machine. If you don't, running Boot Camp on Tiger is no longer a real option. That was a time-limited beta that is now over.

    If you want hack-less, full access to Boot Camp (legally), you need Leopard.
     
  12. Dustman macrumors 65816

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    I would hardly classify changing the date to be hacking anything. And also, hasn't it been discussed here that violating an EULA isnt illegal? Just heavily frowned upon.
     
  13. alphaod macrumors Core

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    It's not illegal, it's just you violated a legal contract.
     
  14. Matek macrumors 6502a

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    I have the same problem, I searched the forum, I opened a similar topic about a month ago and didn't find a solution, so I'd say this topic is still pretty valid.

    Because some people want to use windows instead of OS X. Let's not start a flamewar, we have our reasons, you can't say OS X is absolutely superior in every view and doesn't have its weaknesses.

    And if you want to have just Windows, a seperate partition for OS X is just a waste of space (except of course the updates - unfortunately Apple doesn't let us install them from Windows).
     
  15. tommyz23 macrumors newbie

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    I wanted to do the same thing as you. I use Windows XP all the time and sometimes go into Apple just to play with it.

    I have boot camp just default to loading the windows partition.
     
  16. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    If you have Tiger installed, you need to set back the clock. If you have Leopard, don't bother.

    Open up bootcamp (Applications>Utilities). You should be able to follow the instructions. You're going to want to partition the hard drive so that most of the space is for Windows, and about 5 gigs are for OS X.

    you put the XP CD in, it'll reboot, install XP. Then put the Bootcamp driver CD in and let it install. That's about all there is to it. Just make sure you install XP on the right partition (called "Bootcamp") or it'll wipe the hard drive and you'll have to start from scratch.

    Also, when you open up bootcamp, there are some instructions.
    Good luck, post back if you need more help.
     
  17. Matek macrumors 6502a

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    Uhm, the actual process of installing isn't problematic - what's bothering us is the fact we can't remove OS X and have JUST Windows on the machine.
     
  18. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    What are you talking about? All you have to do is have XP install on the entire hard drive instead of just the partition.
     
  19. kuwisdelu macrumors 65816

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    This isn't a flame or anything, just curious. Why buy a Mac only to put Windows on it when you can get a non-Apple PC with Windows or Linux on it for cheaper?
     
  20. iGothic Pro macrumors newbie

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    I recommend selling the laptop completely (if it's in good condition) and purchasing a Windows laptop. You may make some profit if you make the correct choices. :)
     
  21. tommyz23 macrumors newbie

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    I did it this way. I wanted to try an Apple and the Macbook was very similar in price to a similar size and featured Windows machine.

    I soon found out a macbook running Windows isn't the same. The keyboard is lacking some keys(ie the page up and down keys). I can live with the fact that some keys are labeled differently. Also the trackpad drivers seem lacking on the Windows side for the macbook. I wish Apple would improve those. There also is not hard drive activity light!

    Other than the above. I am able to run Windows and give Apple a try.
     
  22. Matek macrumors 6502a

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    Because I never owned a mac and i wanted to try os x, thought id be more satisfied.
     
  23. dgdosen macrumors 65816

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    You could just run Windows as is, then use a USB or Firewire drive to run Macos when you need to...

    Personally, I like Bootcamp with the option of using Fusion. If space is an issue, go get a bigger hard drive. It looks like 320 gigers are going for 130 on newegg!
     
  24. vistafanboi macrumors member

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    Sorry to disappoint you, but running XP on your Macintosh as the exclusive OS is NOT "a violation of a legal contract", since the Macintosh User Agreement says nothing about Windows, or any other alternate OS.n It says nothing about installing or not installing Windows as the exclusive OS.

    It DOES state that OS X may only be installed on Apple-hardware, but that is an entirely different matter.

    Please read your Apple License carefully,OK?

    Donald L McDaniel;)

    Here are a few reasons to install a Microsoft OS on your Apple Intel-based machine as the exclusive OS:

    1) Because it can be done.
    2) Because someone wants to do it.
    3) Because someone might hate OS X but love the machine.
    4) Because an Apple Intel-based PC is an excellent platform for Windows, especially for Vista.


    Donald L McDaniel
     
  25. Lodewijk, Nov 20, 2010
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    I see that this is an older thread, but maybe someone will see it and give me a hand:

    I am thinking of getting a laptop that I hope will serve me a lot longer than the five years my Toshiba lasted. I now have a 2nd hand Amilo, but sometimes after a while of viewing an online video -sooner in HD- the screen suddenly shows weird colors and freezes... so it might be time for a new machine, especially since the man from Fujitsu -after mailing them my problem- mailed me back that it would be very expensive to repair it, so I better get a new "system" as he called it.

    So this time I would like to buy a Macbook Pro 15".
    But I don't like the looks of what appears on its screen with the default OS. This is just a matter of taste. I dislike the dock, the background and the whole setup. But I love the looks of the laptop and its quality!

    As for the OS X looks and functioning v.s. Windows xp, no matter how much anyone will try to convince me that chocolate is much better than vanilla, I prefer vanilla, and for me that is Windows xp. I will most probably never get Windows 7 or any other version they might come up with. I don't want any of those whistles and bells. She's my beloved slim but shapely wife, so try not to voice any impolite thoughts that might come up in you now while reading this please. Politeness in this case is a sign of intelligence... :)

    My current desktop page is a completely clear blue sky, with only 4 icons on it: the basket, IE8, Firefox, and Opera. The tray bar is aluminum, so I feel like I am looking out the window of a space ship. I would love to have those looks on a Mac.
    (When I open my Opera -my favorite- I get the whole page in soothing sea-green with only a minimalistic tool bar. Minimalistic is my taste.)

    To finally get to the point you already got by now: I want to have a Macbook Pro with only Windows xp on it. I can still get a legit Windows xp CD I saw. Now is it possible to just get that on the Mac without running into problems, and if so, how do I go about it?

    Otherwise, if for a purely technical reason it would be better to keep a minimum bit of the OS X on it, how do I make sure it is the minimum? (And if so, why might it be better to keep that on it instead of removing it all together?)

    But if it is possible to run only Windows xp on it without problems, please let me know. And how.

    Any help would be much appreciated.
     
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