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OpenAI Acquires Apple Shortcuts Creators to Bring Deep Mac Integration to ChatGPT
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Funny you should mention Apple Mail. It still doesn't support multiple signatures per account on iPhone and iPad. When Shortcuts first came out, I was able to create a shortcut that let me choose a signature in HTML from a menu, convert it to rich text, and copy it to the clipboard. This shortcut stopped working and I've never been able to replicate it using Dictionaries, Lists, etc. Nor have AI chatbots had any luck.
At this point everyone knows, that AI will not replace programmers. At least not senior-level ones. As for juniors - they are done for, current AIs will do their job faster, cheaper and more reliably. Which is actually scary - we need juniors to replenish seniors who outgrow software engineering.
OpenAI bought Sky not because of a good software, they bought them because of a viable idea and specific experience of the team.
I, for one, was actually waiting for Sky's release, it looked very promising.
Ah yes, Shortcuts... the inferior replacement of AppleScript and Automator.... nice.
Counterpoint in a similar context. My take home is never underestimate the greediness of companies for short term gain. Senior people are expensive. Apple has proven itself to be great at value extraction.
What caused the AWS outage - and why did it make the internet fall apart?
The outage at Amazon services has impacted over 1,000 companies and affected millions of internet users.
www.bbc.com
They left Apple before, something tells me they didn't want to work with them again.
Shortcut is actually great, considering the limitations Apple has imposed to programming freedom and how friendly it has to be for regular users. If anything it's the opposite of arcane and outdated, compared to scripts it tries too replace: it's way too simple and modern. And that's not the programmers' fault at all, it's what Apple wanted.
My experience of Xcode is largely positive. It’s great at finding bugs in your algorithms, wonderful at discovering and incorporating new APIs.
But, and it’s a big but, it will at times replace your code with a block of its own making only for the IDE to go nuts and put up red Xs next to every line.
Why?
Cause those words don’t even exist in the Xcode library!!!!
Still a way to go I think.
As for letting openAI get anywhere near my workflow????? No way Jose
also, people used to working as founders of relatively small companies and teams usually don't exactly enjoy the bureaucracy, slowness, and change resistance of working at a massive company
Signed: been there, done that, never again
So how does privacy work? If you write in your Notes app your memories of being in a black ops secret army operation, is giving ChatGPT access to your Notes app a bad idea?
They are racing to replace every single App.
I much prefer Claude and that's where my euros are currently going to.
Anthropic does less, but everything has a touch of quality that OpenAI doesn't.
In a sense, Anthropic reminds me when Steve Job's Apple was the little guy.
I recommend everyone to install Claude Desktop and try it.
I much prefer Claude and that's where my euros are currently going to.
Anthropic does less, but everything has a touch of quality that OpenAI doesn't.
In a sense, Anthropic reminds me when Steve Job's Apple was the little guy.
I recommend everyone to install Claude Desktop and try it.
I think this will pass, once companies truly feel the impact of replacing talent with AI. Would need more catastrophic fails though.Counterpoint in a similar context. My take home is never underestimate the greediness of companies for short term gain. Senior people are expensive. Apple has proven itself to be great at value extraction.
What caused the AWS outage - and why did it make the internet fall apart?
The outage at Amazon services has impacted over 1,000 companies and affected millions of internet users.
Also, linked article reads like AI slop and clearly is a clickbait piece of crap. It's kinda sad, that BBC degraded to this.
That. OpenAIs models feel sloppy, Claude (especially recent versions) produces better results in my subjective opinion.
That would have been an admission by Apple that their internal Siri and Apple Intelligence team had failed. Which, of course, Apple doesn’t need to do anyway. It’s obvious now with the wholesale exodus of Apple AI team members that this is the case.
On macOS, Shortcuts can run AppleScripts and shell scripts. On iOS, it can run Terminal emulator commands via a-Shell mini—and JavaScript in-app in Shortcuts, or through Scriptable. No native AppleScript on iOS, but Shortcuts still has a lot of power.
Example Mac AppleScript-iOS comparison.
On Mac for downloading the current foremost video in Safari I use an AppleScript saved as a dock app replete with custom YouTube icon, which when launched, can install yt-dlp if not already installed, and doesn't require Homebrew or any user-installed command line tools, will also check for updates and has nice clean dialogs and very few of them—it works well for me.
On iOS, yt-dlp is bundled as a Python script in a-Shell mini (and a-Shell) and a Shortcut ran from the share menu can use it—both apps communicate to download the video—be it from YouTube or another site in Safari or another browser, in the YouTube app or another app. There are many crappy video downloading Shortcuts for iOS, the one I use with this method has consistently been more reliable than the rest.
Just showing you things are possible with Shortcuts on iOS you may think were not. And who knows, in the future Apple may bring Terminal and AppleScript (in some capacity) to iOS and iPadOS, and Shortcuts could take advantage of those technologies out-of-the-box without needing to install third party apps to do some of that.
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Dude, AI is a tool. It's an expert. But it's not creative. YOU got to have the vision. It's the people who need to be creative and then ask AI how to achieve their goals and how to bring their ideas to life. AI can help you brainstorm and get rid of problems or write you the code, but you have to do the thinking first.
I just want ChatGPT to be integrated into Siri so I can ask Siri and it will create automations or just do what I asked for. I don't want to learn how to code the trashy Shortcuts.
Use the AI to build better apps than the AI companies. That will piss them off. It’s like Frankenstein’s monster strangling Dr Frankenstein.
I wonder if they will at some point make their own mobile OS and device - they are certainly building out services and taking over.
DeepSeek.
Reminds me of the trick where the magician played nine chess masters in one room moving from table to table to make his next move—he beat them all—I think them all—turns out he used each chess players’ move against the next chess player 😅
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This is interesting and makes me wonder...It sounds like Apple wants to work with the various AI leaders in the future. That is, allow its users to decide if they want to use Gemini or OpenAI or maybe X, etc, etc. with their iPhones? I'm sure Apple is angling to extract revenue from these AI companies similar to what they do with Google for search. Is this OpenAI's way of getting in front of this so they can say "No thanks Apple, we are all set..." Then again, Google is probably the only company that has the $s available to pay Apple...