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Apple’s so on the wrong path! They must be if every release of every new AI product is compatible with their products!
What are you talking about? These products can be used on a web app so they are compatible with pretty much any operating system in existence. Apple is not special here, if not for being terribly late to the game.
 
ChatGPT still has the largest user base. Average consumers are like a flock of birds... they stick together... which is concerning when independent thinking is needed more than ever.

“Independent thinking” usually just means people in a different flock who think they are independent and critical.

None of our thinking is independent.
 
I'm not seeing GPT 5 yet. I like ChatGPT so much that I just started paying for it 2 weeks ago so I can do more. Apple's goal needs to be to have an AI that makes me stop paying for ChatGPT. I believe in Apple, but I sometimes think they don't realize what their goal should be.
 
How do you define intelligence and why do you think these model do not qualify?
What about quantum people like Robert Penrose saying something like intelligence equals being able to be conscious. Then I guess the question is what defines consciousness? According to him consciousness arises from non computational processes… meaning it can’t come from a computer.

Not sure if I agree with that but would be interesting to hear your definition of consciousness…
 
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Here's the new ChatGPT-5... where 52.8 is somehow bigger than 69.1. Good luck OpenAI fans. Source: OpenAI ChatGPT-5 presentation.
 
Can we somehow make chat gpt our default Siri?
Please no. I use it and some others. Unless you really know what you’re doing with your prompt, you’re just as likely to get an incorrect answer as a correct one. I’ve had to add to my prompts; “only give the true correct answer. Don’t make anything up.if you don’t know the answer, tell me that.” That usually, but not always, works.
 
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What can easily be noticed here is that nowhere does OpenAI say what percentage of the time any of the ChatGPT make any of these errors. It’s all relative. So it’s better, but is it good? That we don’t know.
 
I don't think that LLMs have the capability to reach AGI, and we won't see it on our lifetimes.
It’s the start
How do you define intelligence and why do you think these model do not qualify?
They’re defining intelligence as just that. Ask and you will see - it is intelligently answering a question of you ask it. It’s not intelligent in the way that it can work out for itself the correct answer but that is merely a new point on its horizon.
CEOs and shareholders will be the winners.

The losers will be middle class and the poors.
Losers monetarily, sure. But this stuff does help people in other ways.
 
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They’re defining intelligence as just that. Ask and you will see - it is intelligently answering a question of you ask it. It’s not intelligent in the way that it can work out for itself the correct answer but that is merely a new point on its horizon.
And how can you be so sure that humans don’t do exactly the same thing these AI do (just better -for now-)? How can you tell the difference between working out the correct answer and intelligently answering a question? As long as the answer is correct and the reasoning sound what’s the difference?
 
Unless you really know what you’re doing with your prompt, you’re just as likely to get an incorrect answer as a correct one. I’ve had to add to my prompts; “only give the true correct answer. Don’t make anything up.if you don’t know the answer, tell me that.” That usually, but not always, works.
I've started taking a similar approach when ChatGPT starts giving me bogus answers, and sometimes it works. A variation on this, is that sometimes when I ask it about voting and election laws, it says it can't answer since it claims those are touchy subjects, or words to that effect, to which I reply "Yes you can, you've done it for me before", which it has. ChatGPT then answers my questions on these subjects in full. This is pretty strange behavior on its part.
 
If this was the best of the best, why did OpenAI/Sam desperately raise cash right before releasing ChatGPT 5?

Generally companies raise cash *after* releasing something good. Sounds like Sam got scared of Elon's initiatives with xAi's Grok 4.

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What does it matter? Grok can never be trusted because you know who. I don’t see any reason to use a model that’s tweaked to tell lies for its owner.
 
I'm not yet seeing GPT-5 in the list of models in the latest version of the macOS app, though I've got the $20 a month Plus subscription. Quitting the app and relaunching it didn't help.
 
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I'm not seeing GPT 5 yet. I like ChatGPT so much that I just started paying for it 2 weeks ago so I can do more. Apple's goal needs to be to have an AI that makes me stop paying for ChatGPT. I believe in Apple, but I sometimes think they don't realize what their goal should be.
Why would the goal be a good product that's free? That's nobody's goal. Except a broke customer.
 
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